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JustinRamsey

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Recommend Stage Wedges
« on: September 21, 2018, 10:08:24 AM »

I am starting to piece together a small PA for band gigs in pubs and small clubs. Got a pair of K12s for mains and will be picking up an Allen and Heath MixWiz 16:2 for the board. I am needing some suggestions for stage wedges. I have a pair of peavey PM12s and a QSC GX5 that I use currently for acoustic stuff but now I am upgrading to full band I am looking for recommendations.

I was hoping to find some true wedges as I have struggled with placement of the K12s and the like as monitors because the dispersion usually means sound hits my knees not my ears and I don’t usually have the stage depth to get them far enough forward to work well. I am open to powered or unpowered really if that matters.

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« Reply #1 on: September 21, 2018, 10:15:10 AM »

I am starting to piece together a small PA for band gigs in pubs and small clubs. Got a pair of K12s for mains and will be picking up an Allen and Heath MixWiz 16:2 for the board. I am needing some suggestions for stage wedges. I have a pair of peavey PM12s and a QSC GX5 that I use currently for acoustic stuff but now I am upgrading to full band I am looking for recommendations.

I was hoping to find some true wedges as I have struggled with placement of the K12s and the like as monitors because the dispersion usually means sound hits my knees not my ears and I don’t usually have the stage depth to get them far enough forward to work well. I am open to powered or unpowered really if that matters.

Thanks!

Have you tried angling the up so they are pointed at your face?   A simple DI box or block of wood is standard gear for wedges with less then stellar angles.
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Re: Recommend Stage Wedges
« Reply #2 on: September 21, 2018, 10:25:01 AM »

Have you tried angling the up so they are pointed at your face?   A simple DI box or block of wood is standard gear for wedges with less then stellar angles.

I have but since I am buying new I figured I would try to get something optimized for the use. I’m not opposed to doing that if it’s the best method to get the highest quality sound at an affordable-ish price
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Re: Recommend Stage Wedges
« Reply #3 on: September 21, 2018, 11:08:05 AM »

I have but since I am buying new I figured I would try to get something optimized for the use. I’m not opposed to doing that if it’s the best method to get the highest quality sound at an affordable-ish price

All stage monitor angles are compromises picked by an engineer in a cubicle.  NONE of them are ideal for YOUR use... or if you find your ideal angle you'll find the wedge is either too expensive or doesn't sound good to you.  Seriously.

One of the best regarded wedges is Clair's 12AM.  I'm not sure who picked the baffle board angle, as I've yet to see them used without some kind of chock or prop under the front edge.  One of the most requested wedges, at that.  Don't get hung up on something you can easily take care of yourself.

On the other side of the angle is the Radian (and later EAW/Rat Sound) MicroWedge.  Great at the base of the mic stand but covers almost nothing if you move 5 feet upstage.  Again, an angle block ("audio wood") or a dead Behringer DI helps solve this issue.

For live rock/pop/country music the JBL SRX712m is still a very good choice (and I think JBL still builds them, but does not advertise it) unless you must have a powered wedge.

What's your budget?
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« Reply #4 on: September 21, 2018, 11:12:09 AM »

I've had good luck with the Yamaha DSR112 as floor monitors.  Angle seems to be pretty good and they sound great and get loud if you need them to.
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Re: Recommend Stage Wedges
« Reply #5 on: September 21, 2018, 11:52:17 AM »

I've had good luck with the Yamaha DSR112 as floor monitors.  Angle seems to be pretty good and they sound great and get loud if you need them to.
+1 . DSR's are a great wedge, decent angle.
But if you're using and happy with K12 as foh, then you may be happy with DXR's for wedges. They're almost as good as the DSR's. But get the covers, they scratch easily.
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Re: Recommend Stage Wedges
« Reply #6 on: September 21, 2018, 01:08:11 PM »

RCF NX-SMA10 or 12. 
These are a bit more expensive, but every time I use them I hear 'It's the best we've ever sounded'.
The sound difference between the 10 and twelve is surprisingly small and they get loud.
Plus the Powercon in and out lets you daisy chain the power for a very clean stage.
Our buddy Mike Pyle has them too.
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« Reply #7 on: September 21, 2018, 01:59:07 PM »

+1 on the RCF NX-SMA12's.   I had DSR112's and they were ok but the RCF's are smaller, lighter and I think they are smoother and need less eq unless you are really needing them very loud.

+1 on Mike Pyle also.

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« Reply #8 on: September 21, 2018, 02:11:30 PM »

I've got both the Yamaha DSR112 and the RCF NX12SMA (eight of each) and I do like the RCFs better but the Yamahas are less expensive and I wouldn't turn my nose up at them at all. I think you'd be satisfied with either and given the level of your other gear the Yamahas might be a better fit for you.
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Re: Recommend Stage Wedges
« Reply #9 on: September 21, 2018, 02:19:31 PM »

Yeah I don’t think high end gear is worth it to me I prefer reliability over anything. Which is why I’m getting a tried and tested analog board over a digital. Less to go wrong in my opinion.

This rig will mainly be used by the bands I play in and the rooms we play just don’t justify high end gear. Hard to justify a 10k PA rig for a 600 dollar bar gig. Around my parts most guys are using old Peavey mains and monitors for everything. I’m looking for a step above that but keeping price reasonable (600-700 per box max). I’m slowly building this and making due with what I have now or borrowing/using a bandmates gear too. Trying to do the buy once cry once method just doing it slowly.
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