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Mac Kerr

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Bolero at Nationwide Arena
« on: July 19, 2018, 11:48:56 AM »

I'm sitting in the visitor's locker room at Nationwide doing comms for a corporate event. It's my first time on a Bolero system and it rocks! Our system is 4 Artist nodes, 1 in video village, 1 at FOH, and 2 in A2 land. I have the 2 nodes, a regular LMG rig with an Artist 32 that has 8 ports of coax for panels, 2 C44+ belt pack power supplies, and 8 analog audio I/O, and another Artist 32 that has 3 AES67 cards so we can use 20 Bolero RF belt packs. With 2 antennas in the arena bowl, 1 in backstage service corridor, and 1 in the service corridor on the other side of the arena we have full coverage and connectivity for all 20 packs. Each pack is basically a 6 button wireless panel that can have PL conferences, or point to point routes. So far all the users are loving it.

Thanks to Justin McClellan from Riedel for helping me get this up and running.

Mac

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Re: Bolero at Nationwide Arena
« Reply #1 on: July 19, 2018, 06:48:01 PM »

Things are finally calming down as we finish up the first day of rehearsals. All comm requests fulfilled, PA sounding good, corporate band rehearsing. Me not having to participate in rehearsals.

The PA is 4 hangs of 12 K2 and 4 hangs of 12 Kara with ARCS Wide front fills. FOH and Mons are SSL, 500 at FOH 350 at Mons. Lots of fiber and not much copper. Comms running on a fiber ring of a TAC8 on a multipin connecting the 4 Riedel racks, coax to panels, CAT5 or XLR to 4W I/O, AES XLR cable to C3 digital comm packs, and OTA to 20 Bolero packs. The farther into this we get the better I like these Bolero packs. They sound like digital wire, great audio no noise. So far they are proving more reliable than any other system I've used excepting RAD, but these are 6ch and each pack is individually addressable, and can be used without a headset like a walkie talkie.

Woo Hoo!

Mac
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Re: Bolero at Nationwide Arena
« Reply #2 on: July 20, 2018, 05:31:48 AM »

I'm sitting in the visitor's locker room at Nationwide doing comms for a corporate event. It's my first time on a Bolero system and it rocks! Our system is 4 Artist nodes, 1 in video village, 1 at FOH, and 2 in A2 land. I have the 2 nodes, a regular LMG rig with an Artist 32 that has 8 ports of coax for panels, 2 C44+ belt pack power supplies, and 8 analog audio I/O, and another Artist 32 that has 3 AES67 cards so we can use 20 Bolero RF belt packs.

Neat looking system. How do you like the Smart Panels compared to the older style 1000 series?
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Re: Bolero at Nationwide Arena
« Reply #3 on: July 20, 2018, 10:41:02 AM »

Neat looking system. How do you like the Smart Panels compared to the older style 1000 series?

The new 2300 series panels are beautiful, and they will get more powerful as time goes on, but I find the 1000 series to be easier to use. I like having individual volume knobs next to each talk button. It's hard to tel without have panels next to each other to test, but the 2300 series may sound better. They are also IP based so may be easier to cable up if you have an IP infrastructure in place. The new lever panels will have individual volume controls, and look like RTS KP32 panels if you have clients used to working with KP Panels.

While this is not a huge system I've got here, 12 panels, 10 Digital beltpacks, and Bolero, with 20 Bolero packs instead of 16 BTR800 packs the whole system is really quiet. All you hear is people talking, there is no noise on comms.

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Re: Bolero at Nationwide Arena
« Reply #4 on: July 20, 2018, 10:53:41 AM »

If we live long enough technology can catch up to our imagination.

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Re: Bolero at Nationwide Arena
« Reply #5 on: July 20, 2018, 12:10:56 PM »

I'm sitting in the visitor's locker room at Nationwide doing comms for a corporate event. It's my first time on a Bolero system and it rocks! Our system is 4 Artist nodes, 1 in video village, 1 at FOH, and 2 in A2 land. I have the 2 nodes, a regular LMG rig with an Artist 32 that has 8 ports of coax for panels, 2 C44+ belt pack power supplies, and 8 analog audio I/O, and another Artist 32 that has 3 AES67 cards so we can use 20 Bolero RF belt packs. With 2 antennas in the arena bowl, 1 in backstage service corridor, and 1 in the service corridor on the other side of the arena we have full coverage and connectivity for all 20 packs. Each pack is basically a 6 button wireless panel that can have PL conferences, or point to point routes. So far all the users are loving it.

Thanks to Justin McClellan from Riedel for helping me get this up and running.

Mac

When you say LMG rig are you referring to the company based out of the Orlando area LMG. Or does that mean something else?
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Re: Bolero at Nationwide Arena
« Reply #6 on: July 20, 2018, 12:19:13 PM »

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They are also IP based so may be easier to cable up if you have an IP infrastructure in place.

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I think this is key.  Show sites are going to continue to move towards IP infrastructure.  I don't see how they can't.  The ability to place virtually any show related piece of equipment anywhere it's needed simply because there's a LAN available there is going to become SOP in the future.

We're very close now.  A larger show i did recently used a single fiber LAN backbone to run all show control [including lighting], Dante, and Comms.  Only thing left to get on board is Video.  Stupid Video.  :)
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Re: Bolero at Nationwide Arena
« Reply #7 on: July 20, 2018, 01:55:42 PM »

When you say LMG rig are you referring to the company based out of the Orlando area LMG. Or does that mean something else?

Yes, LMG, the sound and video shop in Orlando and Vegas.

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« Reply #8 on: July 20, 2018, 02:46:03 PM »

I think this is key.  Show sites are going to continue to move towards IP infrastructure.  I don't see how they can't.  The ability to place virtually any show related piece of equipment anywhere it's needed simply because there's a LAN available there is going to become SOP in the future.

We're very close now.  A larger show i did recently used a single fiber LAN backbone to run all show control [including lighting], Dante, and Comms.  Only thing left to get on board is Video.  Stupid Video.  :)

The Riedel stuff is either AVB, or AES67, both of which have switch requirements a little more stringent than Dante. This doesn't necessarily mean exotic switches (at least the AES67 part), but it does mean more careful switch configuring. As long as you have a good config file to load it should be pretty straight forward to get the set up right.

As we get more signal on networks I think we'll see more bi-directional SFPs in switches to save fiber strands. As 10G switches become more mainstream we will really be able to pile a lot of stuff on the net. Dante uses about 100MB/48ch, Helixnet runs 24ch of comm in 100MB, Riedel Bolero antennas require a 1GB network but I think it's only about 100MB of bandwidth for a good sized system.

It may not be too long before there are production IT specialists to support all this network utilization.

Mac
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Re: Bolero at Nationwide Arena
« Reply #9 on: July 20, 2018, 03:20:12 PM »

The Riedel stuff is either AVB, or AES67, both of which have switch requirements a little more stringent than Dante. This doesn't necessarily mean exotic switches (at least the AES67 part), but it does mean more careful switch configuring. As long as you have a good config file to load it should be pretty straight forward to get the set up right.

As we get more signal on networks I think we'll see more bi-directional SFPs in switches to save fiber strands. As 10G switches become more mainstream we will really be able to pile a lot of stuff on the net. Dante uses about 100MB/48ch, Helixnet runs 24ch of comm in 100MB, Riedel Bolero antennas require a 1GB network but I think it's only about 100GB of bandwidth for a good sized system.

It may not be too long before there are production IT specialists to support all this network utilization.

Mac

I agree with all this.

My former employer used all bi-directional SFPs, so that's the normal that i'm already used to.  I like that it saves a strand, but i also like that's it's just simpler.  Makes network fiber feel a lot more like a really long Cat6 cable, which at this point most people understand.
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