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Lyle Williams

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Re: Question on wiring up quad boxes
« Reply #10 on: June 19, 2018, 03:45:53 pm »

I have no familiarity with US codes nor wiring products.  I'm on the other side of the world.

To me, pigtails in a portable application don't fill me with joy.

Can you just thin out 25% of the 10ga strands and clamp the remainder in a smaller bootlace ferrule?
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Stephen Swaffer

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Re: Question on wiring up quad boxes
« Reply #11 on: June 19, 2018, 08:02:10 pm »

I would have a hard ime arguing against hinning out a few strands-and I can't say I haven't ever done so-but if you are concerned about meeting codes, that will usually be unacceptable.
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Re: Question on wiring up quad boxes
« Reply #12 on: June 20, 2018, 01:38:10 am »

Does that mean that I need one of these for each conductor?  If so, then I would need three of these for each quad box?  If that's the case, that might be a pretty tight fit.

They lay very flat and are easy to tuck in below the receptacles. Not bulky at all like multiple heavy gauge wires going into wire nuts.

Here's a picture of a box being built using the 5 way Wago 221 connectors and 12 ga. wiring.
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Re: Question on wiring up quad boxes
« Reply #13 on: June 20, 2018, 10:50:11 am »


Here's a picture of a box being built using the 5 way Wago 221 connectors and 12 ga. wiring.

That's pretty slick!  Thanks for the tip.

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Re: Question on wiring up quad boxes
« Reply #14 on: June 20, 2018, 01:14:01 pm »

Here's a picture of a box being built using the 5 way Wago 221 connectors and 12 ga. wiring.

Thanks for posting the picture, it helps a lot.  I think I'll see what deliver times are like for these.  I already have at least $50 into each quad, so what's another $5 per box!
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Re: Question on wiring up quad boxes
« Reply #15 on: June 20, 2018, 03:58:22 pm »

Ok, I was picturing in my mind those twist-on wire nuts that have never been legal down here.  The picture looks nice and stable.
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Re: Question on wiring up quad boxes
« Reply #16 on: June 20, 2018, 10:00:45 pm »

if your going from 10 to 12 gauge for a couple of inches anyway. Why not just cut off a few strands until it fits.  This would reduce the gauge (and increase the resistance) for just a fraction of a inch.
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Re: Question on wiring up quad boxes
« Reply #17 on: June 21, 2018, 06:24:58 pm »

Hey Guys,

I was just about to ask this same question, "why not cut off a few strands till its 12ga"
It would seem to me your doing the same the with 2 less connections equaling 2 less points of failure. If it is not to code what would make using a Wago 221 a better safer connection?
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Re: Question on wiring up quad boxes
« Reply #18 on: June 21, 2018, 06:29:50 pm »

Hey Guys,

I was just about to ask this same question, "why not cut off a few strands till its 12ga"
It would seem to me your doing the same the with 2 less connections equaling 2 less points of failure. If it is not to code what would make using a Wago 221 a better safer connection?

Because it's a Code violation?

The Wago 221 can accept a range of wire sizes without compromise.  In some non-USA jurisdictions "wire nuts" are not accepted materials and the 221 was designed to meet that need.
« Last Edit: June 21, 2018, 06:32:21 pm by Tim McCulloch »
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Re: Question on wiring up quad boxes
« Reply #19 on: June 21, 2018, 08:22:51 pm »

Hey Tim,

I'm not saying use any wire nuts, I was saying take your 10ga H N G coming in the box and snip a few strands off each one so it is essentially becomes a 12ga wire at the receptacle. In my mind this seems like a better and safer way than adding more connections and crowding the box with the Wago 221's. I realize this may not be code but am I missing something in my thinking that "theoretically" it would be better?
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