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Tim McCulloch

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Re: Def Leppard/Journey PA provider
« Reply #20 on: June 12, 2018, 12:08:04 pm »

...or he might not be.  We provided for a PB/NG show about 15 years ago.  The main (only?) thing I remember was that Neil had a talkback mic that went to the FOH near field monitors.  During both soundcheck and the show itself, Neil repeatedly berated the FOH engineer and gave him specific level and eq instructions.  Never seen anything like it before of since.

My personal observations of that era are identical.
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Re: Def Leppard/Journey PA provider
« Reply #21 on: June 12, 2018, 04:10:58 pm »

You haven't worked a Pat Benatar Neil Giraldo show, I take it?

By far he's not the only one, though.  There are plenty of guitar-slingers that can't seem to create "my tone" without huge amounts of SPL.

I wonder if part of what they like also involves human auditory physical compression and Temporary Threshold Shift in combination with the actual sonic content of the guitar rig's output.  The human phys element would also help explain why some guitarists claim their rigs record differently than they sound live.  If nothing changes except putting the player in cans or listening via control room monitors what has changed is the player's environment, not the rig... but I digress.

The guitar is a wonderful instrument.  It can be a weapon of musical disruption or it can be a machine to kill Fascists or it can serenade your friends.  I wish it could be used in friendlier SPL ranges sometimes.


Green Day likes their amps loud and crunchy live -- which is why they are set yo backstage firing backwards from the stage into Shure ribbon mics. There's many ways to get the sound you want from a guitar amp dimed without making the audience suffer...
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Re: Def Leppard/Journey PA provider
« Reply #22 on: Yesterday at 06:20:52 pm »


Green Day likes their amps loud and crunchy live -- which is why they are set yo backstage firing backwards from the stage into Shure ribbon mics. There's many ways to get the sound you want from a guitar amp dimed without making the audience suffer...

And at that level there should be no reason not to isolate the cabinets from the audience or use power reducers to get "your sound".  Even if it means a flat pack iso cabinet the size of a small room.
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Re: Def Leppard/Journey PA provider
« Reply #23 on: Yesterday at 06:35:44 pm »

Def Leopard 1987 Hysteria tour, at Alpine Valley WI with the great Robert Scovill mixing. The sound was crystal clear and I would guess the average level was 100 dB or so, 2/3 of the way back within the shed. There were times the audience sing-along level slightly dominated what was coming out of the sound system. Even with what is now 30 year old technology, the sound beat a lot of what I hear today.
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