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Jay Barracato

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Re: Wireless router
« Reply #10 on: May 18, 2018, 09:08:10 AM »

In general, how long of an Ethernet cable can I have connecting a m32 to a wireless access point?

About 100 feet would allow me to stash the box on stage closer to most of the wireless mixing.

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I am just starting the braindrizzling process. If I place a combo router/AP high outside my FOH booth, it is farther from most wireless mix points, but still no more than 75ft line of sight. That would also allow me to hardwire a computer for additional control.

For the record, this is a full sized m32 installed in a booth that I don't mind but many visiting techs hate. Wireless gives those visitors a during show option freeing them from being in the booth.

For my part, other than mixing monitors on stage, my biggest personal use would probably be taking the tablet to stage while troubleshooting to mute/unmute things.

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Re: Wireless router
« Reply #11 on: May 18, 2018, 10:47:29 AM »

If all you need is a single Ethernet connection (back to your router/desk), we've had the best luck with the Apple Airport Express. It's $79 and it just works. It's tiny, to boot.

Been using them for 5-6 years now, zero issues. Ultra-reliable. Have used them at outdoor venues with 2500-3000 people, no problems at all.

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Re: Wireless router
« Reply #12 on: May 18, 2018, 12:24:34 PM »

It is. I messed around for 2 hours with that software trying to turn off EEE on a switch. It launched once, then it simply wouldn’t not open again.... no matter how many times I uninstalled and reinstalled, cleared registry components, it would not launch again. Finally I move to a different computer, and boom it worked fine as designed.... only to find out EEE couldn’t be disabled.

I gave it the old college try.   Like Rob, I also gave up on the ubiquity bullet. I was able to get that one to work well enough I suppose, but some devices had difficulty discovering it. The engenous APs on the other hand have been rock solid for 4 years now even in the middle of 90,000 some folks.


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That's really odd.  I use one at my house,  we have them at every office on four contients and have used them in nursing homes to elementru schools.  They are as good as the Cisco's I swore by for years.  I used Cisco when I first started with the x32's like 5 years ago.

The uqiquity has held up for me

The Unifi are not point to point so. Eee is not an issue..



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Re: Wireless router
« Reply #13 on: May 18, 2018, 12:42:22 PM »

A few points...

I have had great success with the Unifi Pro AC units. I have 2 in my house and 7 at a clients house. I love them but the form factor isnt suitable for portable use.

I have had poor results with the UAP-AC mesh units. Dropouts for no apparent reason and much harder to configure (for me) than the above APs. I may try again some day.

Scott, while i agree that technically a router isnt needed for most of our audio networks, i find it doesnt hurt and is invaluable back in the shop.

Having the router means that back in the shop, i can simply plug the WAN port in to the shop (or home) network and the audio net now has Internet access for downloading updates and such without needing to reconfigure any of the audio net devices. This also removes any inconvenience of having static ip addresses on most of the audio net devices (excluding wireless tablets and such).



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Re: Wireless router
« Reply #14 on: May 18, 2018, 03:07:07 PM »

Doesn't an access point need to be plugged into a router/controller? Where else would it get an IP address?

I use a Netgear wireless router backstage for my network. I have my DSP and monitor X32 patched to it. Having extra ports is essential for me. I keep another w/less router at FOH for the X32 there cause I'm too lazy to run another cable.
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Re: Wireless router
« Reply #15 on: May 18, 2018, 03:17:58 PM »

Doesn't an access point need to be plugged into a router/controller? Where else would it get an IP address?

I use a Netgear wireless router backstage for my network. I have my DSP and monitor X32 patched to it. Having extra ports is essential for me. I keep another w/less router at FOH for the X32 there cause I'm too lazy to run another cable.

The AP should have a static IP.  I typically don't run DHCP.  Less you leave to chance.   I send the Ipads out with a single SSID, manually programmed and a static IP with no gateway.  This eliminates any BS.

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Re: Wireless router
« Reply #16 on: May 18, 2018, 03:35:27 PM »

The AP should have a static IP. 

Agreed. But how would you connect multiple devices to an access point unless there was a router/controller in the network?
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Re: Wireless router
« Reply #17 on: May 18, 2018, 04:50:04 PM »


If you use Android Scanfi Wifi App for phone is a great tool to look at what channels are busy
and what channels are best to use in your venue.

It is free.

I do not think it is available for IOS.
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Re: Wireless router
« Reply #18 on: May 18, 2018, 11:01:29 PM »

Agreed. But how would you connect multiple devices to an access point unless there was a router/controller in the network?

The router has nothing to do with it. Things on an Ethernet can find each other. The router is only needed to go to another network.

For an earlier question, DHCP service is also not a router function..

For those playing at home...
What we refer to as a router is actually a box with
1) a router
2) a network switch
3) an Access Point
4) a DHCP server
5) a network firewall

It may have other functions too such as a web server or main server

Scott points out that if everything is configured with an assigned address, no DHCP is needed. Also, if everything is on a single network, no router needed either. All you need is a switch and if wifi access is needed, an access point.

On a gig, i use the Access Point, Switch, and DHCP part of my “Router”.



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Re: Wireless router
« Reply #19 on: May 19, 2018, 01:04:52 AM »

Agreed. But how would you connect multiple devices to an access point unless there was a router/controller in the network?
Yea, I have several bands that mix their own IEMs (and even some wedges) from our QU-24 with up to seven simultaneous iPhone connections. DHCP may well be riskier than static IP but a lot less convenient for my needs.
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Re: Wireless router
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