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[Tim Weaver]

I mix a broadcast feed on a CL5. I have been using a Presonus Central Station to switch between my regular monitors (Focal's) and my little "TV" speakers (Avantones). The Presonus is getting a little wonky so I want to take it out of the equation and drive my monitors directly off the desk. Should be possible, right?

My stumbling block is being able to switch between the two monitors, hopefully using UDK's.

Can anybody think of a way to do this? I'd like to have 2 UDK's that mute each pair of speakers individually. I could run them off of the matrix outs, but I would lose the Cue interrupt working properly.


The Monitor control section has a lot of options for Source selections, but hardly anything for output selections.

[Helge A Bentsen]

One option, run cue out physically patched into a pair of input channels and send each channel to it's own matrix out connected to separate speaker pairs.

I've done that when mixing IEM + wedges with a pair of UDK to mute/unmute the cue return channels. Haven't found a way to do this internally.

[boburtz]

nevermind

[Andrew Broughton]

Connecting one set to Monitor Out and the other set to Cue Out doesn't work for you? I've not tried it, but I'm thinking something like using the Custom layers to have the monitor fader on one fader and the cue fader on another, you could toggle them on and off.

[Thomas Dameron]

Not ideal, but you could use the two scenes with focus recall set to only change the output patch.  It would depend on how else you're using the scene recall if this would work or not.  It's annoying that you can only get it to focus on the entire output patch as opposed to the out patch for that specific bus. 

UDK 1 would direct recall the scene with the cue outs patched to your big monitors, and 2 would direct recall a scene with the little monitors patched.

thomas d.

[Tim Weaver]

Connecting one set to Monitor Out and the other set to Cue Out doesn't work for you? I've not tried it, but I'm thinking something like using the Custom layers to have the monitor fader on one fader and the cue fader on another, you could toggle them on and off.

No, I need to have the same mix on both pair of speakers, yet still have the Cue "interrupt" what I am listening to at any time. I just need to switch between speakers easily.

With the way I understand the Cue and Monitor busses feeding each set of speakers, I would get program and cue on the monitors, but only cue, no program on the cue buss.

[Thomas Dameron]

No, I need to have the same mix on both pair of speakers, yet still have the Cue "interrupt" what I am listening to at any time. I just need to switch between speakers easily.

With the way I understand the Cue and Monitor busses feeding each set of speakers, I would get program and cue on the monitors, but only cue, no program on the cue buss.

Yeah, that's correct.  I don't think theres a way to make your cue hear the program without specifically cueing that bus.  I typically use the cue for a near field, which I want off by default.  The monitor bus feeds my Smaart reference and headphones at the same time. 

thomas d.

[Mark Dunne]

Route the Cue out of the console as normal via the AES o/p.

Return the Cue into the AES i/p.

Assign the AES i/p to two pairs of channels.

Direct Out each pair to relevant speakers.

UDK a mute per i/p channel.

Cue interrupt should still work

[Riley Casey]

Did they add an AES input to the CL5?

Route the Cue out of the console as normal via the AES o/p.

Return the Cue into the AES i/p.

Assign the AES i/p to two pairs of channels.

Direct Out each pair to relevant speakers.

UDK a mute per i/p channel.

Cue interrupt should still work

[boburtz]

Route the Cue out of the console as normal via the AES o/p.

Return the Cue into the AES i/p.

Assign the AES i/p to two pairs of channels.

Direct Out each pair to relevant speakers.

UDK a mute per i/p channel.

Cue interrupt should still work

No local AES input on CL5, but the same thing can be achieved via analog. You would route from the "monitor" output, not the "cue" output.

[Andrew Broughton]

If you can't afford to use up channels, it would be an easy function for YammieQ.
In that example, output patches are changing depending on which mix is cued, but it's easy enough (even easier) to have output patches change by UDK or whatever you want.

[Tim Weaver]

Can we just go ahead and vote in Andrew as King of Yammie Island?


I will experiment with the YammieQ, but the output-to-input method will work for me as well, if I find the YammieQ too unweildy.

[Andrew Broughton]

I will experiment with the YammieQ, but the output-to-input method will work for me as well, if I find the YammieQ too unweildy.

It's kinda over-kill but you may find other uses for it as well. It easy to use for "snippet" type functions ala Midas/Behringer. Don't be shy about asking for help (on my forum or via e-mail) if you decide to give it a try.

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