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Mal Brown

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Projector rental cable package.
« on: March 02, 2018, 11:09:58 am »

I just put an Epson 535w into my rental inventory.   Was planning on Cat 5 an a 25í hdml, Short USB. 6í ?  Is there another cable type that I should include ?

Target audience is Talking Heads with Power Point primarily, movie night secondarily if at all...

Tia, Mal
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Re: Projector rental cable package.
« Reply #1 on: March 02, 2018, 12:41:06 pm »

I just put an Epson 535w into my rental inventory.   Was planning on Cat 5 an a 25í hdml, Short USB. 6í ?  Is there another cable type that I should include ?

Target audience is Talking Heads with Power Point primarily, movie night secondarily if at all...

Tia, Mal

Add a 25ft VGA.

USB B or micro or both?

Maybe 1/8" for audio when running VGA?

Absolutely have every type of converter possible. You should be able to accept any type of the following and convert or directly go to the projector. I'm considering adding a scalar to my arsenal.

Display Port
Mini DP (thunderbolt)
HDMI
Mini HDMI
VGA
DVI

RE: Movie night - grab an HDMI audio extractor from Amazon for ~30 that way you can strip the audio to analogue/RCA (or digital if so inclined) and go into speakers.
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Re: Projector rental cable package.
« Reply #2 on: March 05, 2018, 10:11:08 am »

You won't need a Cat5 on show site, at least for someone to connect to the projector. (Naturally, you may find someone who needs to connect their computer to a wired LAN, so then having a Cat5 cable IS nice to have!)

A basic cable package for me, when doing projector/breakout rooms:
- 2 to 3 50' AC
- 2 to 3 25' AC
- 1 to 2 power strips
- 50' HDMI
- 50' VGA
- Rat Tail
- XLR to reach audio point [Typically, a breakout room will have 1-2 wireless combo packs, a 1402 or similar mixer, and a pair of 450s or EV powered speakers]

With a couple of computer dongles to support adaption. Good to have:
- Thunderbolt to VGA/DVI/HDMI hybrid dongle
- DVI to HDMI
- DVI to VGA
- 1 to 2 VGA and HDMI couplers
- USB C to VGA/DVI/HDMI dongle

It'd be pretty hard to NOT be able to support any speaker with that collection of cabling. I would definitely go 50' instead of 25' on the video cabling- since you'll more likely be going lectern-with-video-source to wall, across wall, and then out to projector point [As opposed to lectern-with-video-source directly to projector], that'll quickly eat up 25 feet.

Re more "vintage" adapters; old school display port, etc: I still have them in my work bag, but to be candid, haven't used them in probably 10 years.

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Re: Projector rental cable package.
« Reply #3 on: March 05, 2018, 01:34:57 pm »

I am usually only renting big pjs as part of a larger job.

That said, I expect a power cable and remote.  Usually thereís a vga cable tossed in as well.  You could go two ways, do the basic like I just mentioned and then have a couple cable packages available at an additional cost or bundle it all in one and price accordingly.

You will have more shop prep/check-in time for every rental if itís a full cables and adapter package.  Since I usually have a video workbox with all that gac I would rather not have it and risk it getting misplaced and not returned.

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Re: Projector rental cable package.
« Reply #4 on: March 20, 2018, 02:18:33 pm »

So looking at Mac video outs, am I correct that there are only 2 different recent video connectors- USB-C and Mini Displayport? I have a talker coming with a Mac next week and we're going VGA into the projectors, and I have USB-C >VGA and Mini DP>VGA...just wondering if there's anything else I should grab to be safe.
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Re: Projector rental cable package.
« Reply #5 on: March 20, 2018, 10:44:49 pm »

So looking at Mac video outs, am I correct that there are only 2 different recent video connectors- USB-C and Mini Displayport? I have a talker coming with a Mac next week and we're going VGA into the projectors, and I have USB-C >VGA and Mini DP>VGA...just wondering if there's anything else I should grab to be safe.
USB-C is a connector, not a protocol. 

You'll need to test the system in the shop thoroughly.  Not just with any Mac, but the same type.  Seeing USB-C, Mac, and VGA in the same sentence = red flags. 

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« Reply #6 on: March 21, 2018, 10:16:40 am »

Testing in the shop isnít an option when the presenter wonít be there until showday.
If I need this to work- Mac out>VGA distribution amp> projectors, what am I missing if I already have USB-C >VGA and Mini DP >VGA adaptors?
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« Reply #7 on: March 21, 2018, 06:29:52 pm »

testing in the shop can be for just testing the light,  Spare bulb on hand just in case. 
They tend to break the filament on the bulb because they do not cool off the lamp. 
They bang them around and such. 
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Re: Projector rental cable package.
« Reply #8 on: March 21, 2018, 08:54:07 pm »

Testing in the shop isnít an option when the presenter wonít be there until showday.
If I need this to work- Mac out>VGA distribution amp> projectors, what am I missing if I already have USB-C >VGA and Mini DP >VGA adaptors?
Raging levels of paranoia: I would also have HDMI to VGA adapter. Some newer computers only have HDMI output. *Holds an HP laptop in his hands with that exact problem* I know that the presenter is bringing a MacBook, but you *never* know what can change in a week's time...... :)

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« Reply #9 on: March 22, 2018, 02:07:01 pm »

+1 to ray's suggestion, really, really useful for getting around HDCP errors.

Having a USB to HDMI or VGA adaptor is really useful too. you can get an extra output or if their onboard doesn't work you can pop it in and it works 100% of the time 75% of the time ;)
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