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Thomas Le

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Setting levels on wireless receivers
« on: February 22, 2018, 10:22:01 am »

On Shure/Sennheiser analog wireless (specifically ULX-P and EW100G3), how are you running your levels on your receivers? This is for handheld lead vocals.
 
  • On Shure ULX-P do you choose Mic or Line switch?
  • On EW100G3 do you run at zero or max +18 (I think)?
 
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Re: Setting levels on wireless receivers
« Reply #1 on: February 22, 2018, 10:33:42 am »

On Shure/Sennheiser analog wireless (specifically ULX-P and EW100G3), how are you running your levels on your receivers? This is for handheld lead vocals.
 
  • On Shure ULX-P do you choose Mic or Line switch?
  • On EW100G3 do you run at zero or max +18 (I think)?

We own 18 ULX/P and this is a two part answer.  First part, we set the receiver output to 100% all the way to the right.  Second part: on the input ladder of the receiver I want the level to just hit the first amber light.  This is set with me literally screaming in to the mic.  This handles any loud singer and keeps the unit from overloading.  You can turn up the transmitter gain on the mic in order to get this ratio correct.

Good Luck.

Bill
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Re: Setting levels on wireless receivers
« Reply #2 on: February 22, 2018, 10:52:10 am »

We own 18 ULX/P and this is a two part answer.  First part, we set the receiver output to 100% all the way to the right.  Second part: on the input ladder of the receiver I want the level to just hit the first amber light.  This is set with me literally screaming in to the mic.  This handles any loud singer and keeps the unit from overloading.  You can turn up the transmitter gain on the mic in order to get this ratio correct.

Good Luck.

Bill

Bill,

Do you recall what you have it switched to on the rear of the receiver?

Thanks!
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Re: Setting levels on wireless receivers
« Reply #3 on: February 22, 2018, 11:20:34 am »

On Shure/Sennheiser analog wireless (specifically ULX-P and EW100G3), how are you running your levels on your receivers? This is for handheld lead vocals.
 
  • On Shure ULX-P do you choose Mic or Line switch?
  • On EW100G3 do you run at zero or max +18 (I think)?

On the Shure I set to 'mic"
On Sennheiser I set to "0"
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Re: Setting levels on wireless receivers
« Reply #4 on: February 22, 2018, 12:19:59 pm »

Bill,

Do you recall what you have it switched to on the rear of the receiver?


Ours are set to 'MIC' on the rear panel.

Bill
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Re: Setting levels on wireless receivers
« Reply #5 on: February 22, 2018, 01:03:56 pm »

Bill,

Do you recall what you have it switched to on the rear of the receiver?

Thanks!

Installations and broadcast tend to favor using Line Level with analog output options but the real answer is "whatever works best with the device that accepts the receiver's output."

There is a Lounge post where the OP had issues with mixer input channel overload from a screaming preacher, transmitter gain too high, and receiver set on Line.
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Re: Setting levels on wireless receivers
« Reply #6 on: February 23, 2018, 06:42:16 am »

On Shure/Sennheiser analog wireless (specifically ULX-P and EW100G3), how are you running your levels on your receivers? This is for handheld lead vocals.
 
  • On Shure ULX-P do you choose Mic or Line switch?
  • On EW100G3 do you run at zero or max +18 (I think)?

i set my EW100G3 to 0dB and let the preamp of my mixing desk amplify it, sound better to my ears
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Re: Setting levels on wireless receivers
« Reply #7 on: February 23, 2018, 11:24:31 am »

i set my EW100G3 to 0dB and let the preamp of my mixing desk amplify it, sound better to my ears

I guess you like the sound of 2 preamps back to back. The signal is already at line level inside the receiver. When you switch it to mic you are padding it down to mic level so you can ship it at mic level to the console so you can amplify it back up to where it was.

I set the receiver output at line.

Mac
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Re: Setting levels on wireless receivers
« Reply #8 on: February 23, 2018, 12:17:17 pm »

I guess you like the sound of 2 preamps back to back. The signal is already at line level inside the receiver. When you switch it to mic you are padding it down to mic level so you can ship it at mic level to the console so you can amplify it back up to where it was.

I set the receiver output at line.

Mac

Potentially dumb question, but for the G3 receivers, what would "line-level" be for the AF-out? +18dB would appear to be amplifying the signal out of the receiver compared to 0dB - or is the entire AF-out setting better thought of as adjustable attenuation from the "unaltered line-level" output level of +18dB?
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Re: Setting levels on wireless receivers
« Reply #9 on: February 23, 2018, 03:54:53 pm »

I guess you like the sound of 2 preamps back to back. The signal is already at line level inside the receiver. When you switch it to mic you are padding it down to mic level so you can ship it at mic level to the console so you can amplify it back up to where it was.

I set the receiver output at line.

Mac
there's no such thing as "line" or "mic" (switch) on the G3 sennheiser receivers, you can set the output level per 3dB. i don't see the point of +18dB boost on the receiver & then padding -18 dB on the mixing desk....

the sennheiser manual talks about an maximum output level of +18dBu max, which is 14dB higher then "nominal" line level output

« Last Edit: February 23, 2018, 04:06:02 pm by Joris Jans2 »
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