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[Dave Dermont]

Hey gang,

A venue I work with wants to be able to record live multi-tracks of the shows. The current provider is using an Onyx 1640i and a Mac with Logic Pro X. The Mackie Onyx is Firewire interface, which pretty much rules out a Windows computer. Since a dedicated recording computer is already available, I'd like to go with something with USB.

USB interface is the one thing I don't want to be talked out of.

I have experience with a Soundcraft Impact, and this would probably be my first choice, but I am looking for less expensive alternatives. The Impact is $2k-ish. I am not aware of any lower priced Soundcraft digital mixers with a Multi-Track interface

Soundcraft makes the Signature 22MTK, which is only $800, but for this kind of money, why not just get a Behringer X32 Rack?

This is for a performance venue that runs multiple stages for summertime festivals, so any additional utility would be welcome. This makes the X32 rack very attractive, since it can be used both with a stage box or as a stage box.

The non-mixer interface solutions, while less expensive, all seem kind of messy.

Thank you for your suggestions.

[Andrea Litti]

I use a A&H Qu-16 with an external HDD plugged into the qu-drive port, record the show, then save the track files on my computer and load them into my daw of choice

[Scott Gaines]

The Allen-Heath QU series does great multitracking.
I use the QU16. It takes some time to learn it, and only the best USB flash drives are compatible for multitracking, but the results are undeniable.

[Dave Garoutte]

Consider the Ui24.  Around $1k.
It's a stagebox style remote mixer, but it has easy usb recording and playback.  Plug in a stick and go.
LOTS of other nice features.

[Steve Crump]

I have used the QU-16 and Midas M32R with a PC and USB to multi-track at our venue. No complaints with either. We turn the tracks over to a college radio station, they edit and broadcast. For this function I really don't see a difference in units.
Rack may be a great option. Look at the Allen and Heath QU-SB if you are thinking rack, just another great option.
 

[Dave Dermont]

Consider the Ui24.  Around $1k.
It's a stagebox style remote mixer, but it has easy usb recording and playback.  Plug in a stick and go.
LOTS of other nice features.

The Ui24 seems to have the capacity to plug in a Monitor/Keyboard/Mouse directly.

The QSC TouchMix 30 Pro has the functionality I am looking for and a pile of AUX mixes, plus the provider I spoke of in my original post just bought one.

[Joris Jans2]

i've had great experience with the X32 rack for recording. stable, easy to use. i use it with my band both for (in ear) monitors and recording of both rehearsels & live perfomances

[Dave Garoutte]

One of the cool things about the Ui, is that it doesn't use an app.
Any device that has a web browser and wireless can operate it, phone, laptop, tablet from any manufacturer.

[Kemper Watson]

The Allen-Heath QU series does great multitracking.
I use the QU16. It takes some time to learn it, and only the best USB flash drives are compatible for multitracking, but the results are undeniable.

What flash drives are you using? I get a lot of errors unless I use the WD Passport Ultra USB hard drives

[boburtz]

What flash drives are you using? I get a lot of errors unless I use the WD Passport Ultra USB hard drives

I've used Sandisk Extreme 500 SSD without issue for 16 tracks.

[Stephen Swaffer]

If you are using a Mac, the QU series does USB directly to the MAC very nicely.  The Q drive is also useful, but if you want it on a Mac in the end, a USB cable to Logic Pro is the simplest interface I can imagine-that is exactly what we use if we want multitrack.

[Robert Lofgren]

If you end up with the x32rack then you can install the x-live card and record onto sd-cards. You can even record via usb to a computer at the same time for redundancy.

The option cards give you the possibility to record over the ethernet interface by using either x-dante or x-wsg (for waves soundgrid). This is perfect should you ever need redundancy recordings.

If you record via an analog splitter then the mr18 should fit the bill unless 18ch is too small.

I have used the ui24r recently and the recordings were toast, even thiugh a higher speced usb stick was used.

[Wes Garland]

You can even record via usb to a computer at the same time for redundancy.

Don't the X-Live and X-USB cards plug into the same slot?  If so, how do you use them at the same time?

[Robert Lofgren]

Think of the x-live as an x-usb that also contains the sd-card option. I.e. it has both options onboard and can be used simultaneously.

Don't the X-Live and X-USB cards plug into the same slot?  If so, how do you use them at the same time?

[Robert Lofgren]

Oh, a really cool new gadget from klark-teknik just released is the dn9630.

It is an aes50<—>usb gadget that will allow you to connect your computer via usb to the aes50 network and record/playback all of the 48 audio streams.

It isn’t expensive either...

[Mal Brown]

I’m real happy with what I get from the ui-24r.  The recordings are at least as good as what Iget from my SI rig using the Madi/USB card.  If you can live with 10 auxes then the UI-24r should be on your short list

[Dave Dermont]

Oh, a really cool new gadget from klark-teknik just released is the dn9630.

It is an aes50<—>usb gadget that will allow you to connect your computer via usb to the aes50 network and record/playback all of the 48 audio streams.

It isn’t expensive either...

I see this on the K-T website, but can't find it for sale anywhere.

[Robert Lofgren]

Looks like it’s only available in europe right now. I assume it will show up fairly soon in the US.

It is €240 + vat here in europe.

I see this on the K-T website, but can't find it for sale anywhere.

[Dave Garoutte]

The Ui can also record simultaneously to two USB ports, one stick and one to your DAW.

[Wes Garland]

Think of the x-live as an x-usb that also contains the sd-card option. I.e. it has both options onboard and can be used simultaneously.

Thanks!!  I missed that.  That's fantastic news, because I use the USB input to drive my break music/DJ rig, as well as virtual sound checks, etc.

[Roland Clarke]

Hey gang,

A venue I work with wants to be able to record live multi-tracks of the shows. The current provider is using an Onyx 1640i and a Mac with Logic Pro X. The Mackie Onyx is Firewire interface, which pretty much rules out a Windows computer. Since a dedicated recording computer is already available, I'd like to go with something with USB.

USB interface is the one thing I don't want to be talked out of.

I have experience with a Soundcraft Impact, and this would probably be my first choice, but I am looking for less expensive alternatives. The Impact is $2k-ish. I am not aware of any lower priced Soundcraft digital mixers with a Multi-Track interface

Soundcraft makes the Signature 22MTK, which is only $800, but for this kind of money, why not just get a Behringer X32 Rack?

This is for a performance venue that runs multiple stages for summertime festivals, so any additional utility would be welcome. This makes the X32 rack very attractive, since it can be used both with a stage box or as a stage box.

The non-mixer interface solutions, while less expensive, all seem kind of messy.

Thank you for your suggestions.

FireWire on windows is easy.  If you mean you want it to work with a laptop that is more difficult.  Most digital desks offer some sort of interface these days and quite a few don’t even need a computer, just a hardrive of memory card.  The new presonus studiolive III is one example,  behringer is another.

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