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Dustin Coval

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Which Powered Tops
« on: January 08, 2018, 12:43:47 pm »

Looking for something "higher end" to replace our K12 tops.     Mostly for up to 500 person DJ events and small sound reinforcement on occasion.   Suggestions?
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Re: Which Powered Tops
« Reply #1 on: January 08, 2018, 03:28:23 pm »

Looking for something "higher end" to replace our K12 tops.     Mostly for up to 500 person DJ events and small sound reinforcement on occasion.   Suggestions?

Search for "upgrade K12" or "upgrade mains K12" or "replace k12"

That said, DSR and SRX flavors are generally the upgrade option while staying int he pro-sumer <$1500 <90lbs & powered range.

Something not out of the budget range (stated), but rarely found in the prosumer market [as a suggestion, as JBL/Yamy/QSC owns the market] is the Martin CDD Live series 12" or 15" their unique coaxial differential dispersion design is actually innovative. Highly suggest that speaker!
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« Reply #2 on: January 08, 2018, 05:03:21 pm »

What is your budget?


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Re: Which Powered Tops
« Reply #3 on: January 08, 2018, 10:19:47 pm »

Looking for something "higher end" to replace our K12 tops.     Mostly for up to 500 person DJ events and small sound reinforcement on occasion.   Suggestions?

Modest upgrade- JBL SRX powered series, Yamaha DSR112
Substantial upgrade with price to match-Fulcrum FA Series or RCF TT Series
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« Reply #4 on: January 08, 2018, 11:13:06 pm »

Looking for something "higher end" to replace our K12 tops.     Mostly for up to 500 person DJ events and small sound reinforcement on occasion.   Suggestions?

Iím also in the search for this. I have k12s but I want to go to true pro level speaker.  The rcf tt is near the top of my list but Iím still trying to see what else is out there.
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« Reply #5 on: January 08, 2018, 11:51:11 pm »

Looking for something "higher end" to replace our K12 tops.     Mostly for up to 500 person DJ events and small sound reinforcement on occasion.   Suggestions?

First thought: Look at 15's (I'd look at Yorkville http://yorkville.com/loudspeakers/elite/product/ef15p/) or similar for your larger DJ events keep the k12's for your small sound reinforcement (or monitors for your "big rig").
but beware...
Once you upgrade your tops, you will want to upgrade your subs.....
you-have-been-warned...lol
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« Reply #6 on: January 09, 2018, 01:53:45 am »

Looking for something "higher end" to replace our K12 tops.     Mostly for up to 500 person DJ events and small sound reinforcement on occasion.   Suggestions?

JBL SRX815p

A very nice step up from the K12.
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« Reply #7 on: January 09, 2018, 08:24:57 am »

the RCF Art745 is LOUD, good sounding, light and reasonably priced (I own four of 'em, first version). A couple of months ago or so, RCF also introduced the new NX models, which are basically a wooden version of their Art732 and 745 models (same components, same poweramp, enhanced DSP with FIR processing)

I'm in no way linked to RCF except for being a happy user of their products
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« Reply #8 on: January 09, 2018, 12:13:28 pm »

Have experienced QSC K8, Yamaha DSR112 and RCF HD12, I think for the budget the RCF HD series is quite admirable and the headroom is quite high before clipping (the QSC already reducing its low end when near the limit, but quite hard to do apple to apple as the QSC is the only one with 8" woofer). Have seen the HD32a and SUB8004 sets being used on a mall ( 4 Heads + 2 Subs) and it goes quite loud there. If you need more forward vocals the HD32 is a better fit I think as it has 4" coil compared to 1.5" on HD12.

In the end, I would recommend you demo it yourself if possible. The latest QSC series have a new DSP management afaik and it may have different headroom compared to the older series (can't demo it here, import regulation block many new toys)
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Re: Which Powered Tops
« Reply #9 on: January 09, 2018, 10:13:24 pm »

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I mentioned JTR, but they aren't powered
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« Reply #10 on: January 10, 2018, 04:49:29 am »

First thought: Look at 15's (I'd look at Yorkville http://yorkville.com/loudspeakers/elite/product/ef15p/) or similar for your larger DJ events keep the k12's for your small sound reinforcement (or monitors for your "big rig").
but beware...
Once you upgrade your tops, you will want to upgrade your subs.....
you-have-been-warned...lol

I'll second this. I have the older EF500p version of this box and after 10+ years I am still happy with them. Really a work horse box.  I like the weight of the new box though!

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Re: Which Powered Tops
« Reply #11 on: January 10, 2018, 11:51:26 am »

Looking for something "higher end" to replace our K12 tops.     Mostly for up to 500 person DJ events and small sound reinforcement on occasion.   Suggestions?
What's the budget? Higher end could be $4000+.

"500 person DJ events". 500 people on a big dance floor at high volumes, or a 30ft deep dance floor and everyone else just mingling about?

What are the subs?

Any weight or dimension limitations on the tops?
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Re: Which Powered Tops
« Reply #12 on: January 10, 2018, 09:12:48 pm »

Subs are KW181's.  Happy with them for now.  I'm leaning toward JBL SRX812p's to be a good fit but considering others.  Has anyone compared these JBL's to K12's side-by-side?
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Re: Which Powered Tops
« Reply #13 on: January 10, 2018, 09:18:36 pm »

Subs are KW181's.  Happy with them for now.  I'm leaning toward JBL SRX812p's to be a good fit but considering others.  Has anyone compared these JBL's to K12's side-by-side?

Well, considering a budget wasn't mentioned on the initial post, Go with L'Acoustics X15HiQ active 2-way - quite possibly the absolute best active wedge/powered top I've ever had the pleasure of working with. And only weight in at 46lbs. :)
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Re: Which Powered Tops
« Reply #14 on: January 10, 2018, 11:07:17 pm »

Subs are KW181's.  Happy with them for now.  I'm leaning toward JBL SRX812p's to be a good fit but considering others.  Has anyone compared these JBL's to K12's side-by-side?

Is there a particular reason you won't state your budget?
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Re: Which Powered Tops
« Reply #15 on: January 11, 2018, 10:32:46 pm »

I'm looking around $1k or so per cab.  (Won't be using them often enough to justify $2k-$3K+ per cabinet..i'm not doing large festivals here)

Here are a few I have narrowed down in this price range...feel free to comment.

http://www.jblpro.com/www/products/portable-market/srx800-series/srx812p#.WlggFDdG270

http://www.rcf.it/en_US/professional-speaker-systems/d-line/hd-32-a-mk4

http://www.electrovoice.com/product.php?id=2592

Yamaha DSR112    https://usa.yamaha.com/products/proaudio/speakers/dsr_series/specs.html#product-tabs

Again.. whatever i get will be used with KW181 subs (for now)


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Re: Which Powered Tops
« Reply #16 on: January 11, 2018, 10:46:07 pm »

DSRís are good match sonically and pricewise to your KW181. I had several of those subs and was able to cover some good size rooms with 1 over 1, but the DSRís had no problem keeping up 1 over 2 either. IMO, both of those boxes are the best at what they do in their price range.
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Re: Which Powered Tops
« Reply #17 on: January 11, 2018, 10:51:06 pm »

Subs are KW181's.  Happy with them for now.  I'm leaning toward JBL SRX812p's to be a good fit but considering others.  Has anyone compared these JBL's to K12's side-by-side?

Yes - and there is no comparison. However, I have not compared the K2 series with the SRX but unless they are many steps up from the first series, there is still no comparison.
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Re: Which Powered Tops
« Reply #18 on: January 12, 2018, 08:09:35 am »

I use the rcf HD32 mk4 over rcf sub 8004, crossed at 90Hz, a lot. I think my HD's have a design fault: I have NEVER seen the limiter light up in them... ;)

All kidding aside: the big CD, with the 800Hz crossover, makes a lot of difference. You should try them.
 
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« Reply #19 on: January 12, 2018, 11:24:26 am »

I'm looking around $1k or so per cab. 

Again.. whatever i get will be used with KW181 subs (for now)
Unless you're using and external DSP/crossover then make sure the top you get has a built in high pass that will work well with the KW181. The JBL has internal DSP (which is likely the most flexible) and the Yamaha has a HPF switch. I don't think the RCF does and I'm not sure about the EV.

I'm sure all of the above models will outrun the subs if you ask them to.
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« Reply #20 on: January 12, 2018, 11:44:45 am »

You are right, Patrick
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« Reply #21 on: August 21, 2018, 05:10:21 am »

...A couple of months ago or so, RCF also introduced the new NX models, which are basically a wooden version of their Art732 and 745 models (same components, same poweramp, enhanced DSP with FIR processing)...

Sorry to dig up a 7 month old thread, but where can I get more info on this NX model? ^^^ (Nothing on their website about it that I have found.)
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« Reply #22 on: August 21, 2018, 08:40:39 am »

Sorry to dig up a 7 month old thread, but where can I get more info on this NX model? ^^^ (Nothing on their website about it that I have found.)

https://www.rcf.it/products/pro-sound/nx-series

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« Reply #23 on: August 21, 2018, 05:13:48 pm »

https://www.rcf.it/products/pro-sound/nx-series

Oh, Hell's Bells!!! No wonder I didn't see it.  ::)

I went from Google straight to the Live Sound page, here...https://www.rcf.it/en_US//products/live-sound/art-7-series

That's what I get for making posts before I've had my morning coffee. Thanks for the wake-up call.
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