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John L Nobile

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LED's for room lighting
« on: January 08, 2018, 12:29:55 pm »

Need some recommendations as lighting is not my forte. Got a request to look into getting some room lights. LED's on the floor to make the walls look pretty for weddings/conventions etc. Non critical and they won't be travelling. Cheap is the key but they do need some power as the room has 35 -40 foot ceiling.

I found this. Seems to have the same power on paper as my Rush MH-2's which are very bright and as a bonus, they move.

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May not be the best solution since the fan probably makes noise.

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Re: LED's for room lighting
« Reply #1 on: January 08, 2018, 12:55:21 pm »

Need some recommendations as lighting is not my forte. Got a request to look into getting some room lights. LED's on the floor to make the walls look pretty for weddings/conventions etc. Non critical and they won't be travelling. Cheap is the key but they do need some power as the room has 35 -40 foot ceiling.

I found this. Seems to have the same power on paper as my Rush MH-2's which are very bright and as a bonus, they move.

https://www.amazon.ca/Lightess-Lights-Moving-Multicolor-Lighting/dp/B07413X62G/ref=sr_1_194_sspa?s=musical-instruments&rps=1&ie=UTF8&qid=1515180071&sr=1-194-spons&keywords=led+light&psc=1

May not be the best solution since the fan probably makes noise.

I have some of those in my band lighting setup. They are great disco dance lights but not well suited for uplighting or wall accent lighting. I suggest a simple led par light in lieu of anything that moves. The wedding DJ guys use battery powered lights to avoid the power cords. And fan noise can and will be an issue. My cheap pars all have a noisy fan so I would not use them for weddings.

Here are some cheap samples of battery powered lights:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1pc-6-18W-RGBWAUV-6-in-1-Wireless-DMX512-IR-Battery-Power-Led-Par-Free-Shipping-/252412086786?_trksid=p2349526.m4383.l4275.c1

https://www.ebay.com/p/Chauvet-DJ-Wedge-Tri-LED-RGB-DMX-Truss-Uplight-Wash-Light-Stage-Remote/1713343345

This wall wash light is corded, but might suit your needs:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Wall-Washer-Lighting-23-5-Inch-Outdoor-Waterproof-Remote-RGB-LED-Stage-Lighting/253345429435?hash=item3afc9077bb:g:IgAAAOSw3RZaTcnl
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Nathan Riddle

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Re: LED's for room lighting
« Reply #2 on: January 08, 2018, 02:43:28 pm »

These are my favorite insane low cost fixture. I lit up the floor of a gym with 8x of these to low reading levels & crowd wash from 40ft.

The only annoyance is they have IEC power out not edison :(

Also, obviously for the price you'll get batch to batch variations. Get as many as you need at one time so you don't have as many variations (color, strobe, dimming curve, fan noise, build construction, etc).

I have 16x bought 8 and 8; love them for super cheap stuff. but need to get battery powered for ease of use.

70w RGBW 7x10
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00LTQ2ZNY/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1


Alternatively, buy from this guy. 1yr warranty parts for life. Decent fixtures.

https://www.burrightlights.com/
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Re: LED's for room lighting
« Reply #3 on: January 09, 2018, 02:01:48 am »

These are my favorite insane low cost fixture. I lit up the floor of a gym with 8x of these to low reading levels & crowd wash from 40ft.

The only annoyance is they have IEC power out not edison :(

Also, obviously for the price you'll get batch to batch variations. Get as many as you need at one time so you don't have as many variations (color, strobe, dimming curve, fan noise, build construction, etc).

I have 16x bought 8 and 8; love them for super cheap stuff. but need to get battery powered for ease of use.

70w RGBW 7x10
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00LTQ2ZNY/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1


Alternatively, buy from this guy. 1yr warranty parts for life. Decent fixtures.

https://www.burrightlights.com/

My main light show consists of those very lights. They are great for rock tribute bands, with their bright, 25 degree beam. But I don't recommend them for his use as they have a very loud fan in each unit. They're too noisy for weddings IMO.
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Re: LED's for room lighting
« Reply #4 on: January 09, 2018, 07:55:09 am »

My main light show consists of those very lights. They are great for rock tribute bands, with their bright, 25 degree beam. But I don't recommend them for his use as they have a very loud fan in each unit. They're too noisy for weddings IMO.

Weird, I've never felt the fans in mine were very loud (not dead quiet-but not loud). I'll have to measure them sometime. I expect somewhere around 40 dBA.
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John L Nobile

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Re: LED's for room lighting
« Reply #5 on: January 09, 2018, 12:18:20 pm »

Weird, I've never felt the fans in mine were very loud (not dead quiet-but not loud). I'll have to measure them sometime. I expect somewhere around 40 dBA.

Those lights look like they'd be right for the gig but the fan noise could be an issue. The room is large so at 40dBA, you'd never hear it.

I'll probably just order 1 of a fixture to test out.

Thanks for the suggestions everyone.
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Re: LED's for room lighting
« Reply #6 on: January 09, 2018, 04:43:04 pm »

Check also the refresh rate of PWM. I've once almost bought moving heads similar to the ones in the first post, but the refresh rate was too slow. I've recorded the light with my DSLR camera and the video contained running horizontal stripes. Most probably you don't want that for wedding rooms :)

Note: PWM rate is not a problem if you only use full power for each primary color (R/G/B).  If you use colors that have each R/G/B either at 0% or 100%, PWM does not matter. However,  when you start to dim the colors, the stripes may appear.

google keywords: "pwm led video flicker"
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Re: LED's for room lighting
« Reply #7 on: January 09, 2018, 05:30:53 pm »

Iíll go against the grain on this and vote for a variant of the Chauvet SlimPar Pro.  Decent output, runs silent, no flicker problems that Iíve run into yet, and reasonable dimming for its price.  I donít personally own any of the cheaper Generic Chinese units, but from the decent sample size Iíve used, enough have had issues (fans/choppy dimming/flicker/overall reliability) that unless itís a single-use thing I wouldnít look to anything less than a SlimPar Pro.  Just my experience, and I know many here have excellent luck with the cheaper fixtures too.  Good luck!
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Re: LED's for room lighting
« Reply #8 on: January 09, 2018, 05:40:26 pm »

Found this on eBay.

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They look like the ones that Nathan suggested but they're 12 watt bulbs. They also have a 10 watt version. Cheaper than dirt. 
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« Reply #9 on: January 09, 2018, 05:45:49 pm »

Iíll go against the grain on this and vote for a variant of the Chauvet SlimPar Pro.  Decent output, runs silent, no flicker problems that Iíve run into yet, and reasonable dimming for its price.  I donít personally own any of the cheaper Generic Chinese units, but from the decent sample size Iíve used, enough have had issues (fans/choppy dimming/flicker/overall reliability) that unless itís a single-use thing I wouldnít look to anything less than a SlimPar Pro.  Just my experience, and I know many here have excellent luck with the cheaper fixtures too.  Good luck!

My good lights are above the stage. These are lights for room ambiance that I won't be having anything to do with once they're purchased and I've set them up. The only spec I got for this was "cheap" and I've got a 100' x 100' x 35' room to make pretty.

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Re: LED's for room lighting
« Reply #10 on: January 09, 2018, 05:55:16 pm »

Iíll go against the grain on this and vote for a variant of the Chauvet SlimPar Pro.  Decent output, runs silent, no flicker problems that Iíve run into yet, and reasonable dimming for its price.

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Even the cheaper non-pro series SlimPar H6 or others are good. I have those and a couple of the CorePAR 80 lights.
The CorePAR lights are COB (single chip) and produce a very bright, consistent wash. They're great for wall wash and they come with a focusing lens for 2 beam spread settings. They're only RGB though and so can't produce a good warm white light like the RGBAW/UV SlimPar H6 can.
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Re: LED's for room lighting
« Reply #11 on: January 10, 2018, 02:34:09 pm »

Found this on eBay.

Same light. They're all over ebay with different wattage ratings listed. There are a new crop of them out now that are RBGA (amber instead of white). I'm thinking about buying some of these. These lights have very noisy fans though, so I still don't recommend them for weddings.
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Re: LED's for room lighting
« Reply #12 on: January 12, 2018, 10:44:31 am »

Cables and wires can be overcome with the DMX wireless to get you around the doors and fire exits.  I have 2 transmitters 1 x 3 receivers and 1 x 4 receivers.  They are a big help in getting around the doors and walls to remove the wires.  power cords can be from the outlets around the room.  The data wire was the problem for connecting the DMX lights.  If the wall lighting is static and not changing color than you should be able to skip the data connection and set them to a single color and leave them.  But there would be no control.   DMX allows the control to brighten or Dim and to on and off as needed.  Change colors for various needs.   
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Re: LED's for room lighting
« Reply #13 on: January 12, 2018, 01:52:45 pm »

Battery powered wireless DMX uplights are very easy to use.  Except that they are more expensive and a lot heavier.
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John L Nobile

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« Reply #14 on: January 12, 2018, 02:16:08 pm »

Battery powered wireless DMX uplights are very easy to use.  Except that they are more expensive and a lot heavier.

That's the way I wanted to go. Budget wants to go another way.
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« Reply #15 on: Today at 07:52:15 am »

That's the way I wanted to go. Budget wants to go another way.

And who is going to recharge and deploy them?
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John L Nobile

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« Reply #16 on: Today at 11:54:14 am »

And who is going to recharge and deploy them?

Cost puts rechargeable lights out of consideration. I'll be deploying them. And fine tuning them. We do have an inhouse AV company. They can rent them out and adjust per client.
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