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Rob Spence

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Re: danger Will Robinson... old red neck wiring.
« Reply #20 on: December 14, 2017, 10:58:52 pm »

Run a line for 40 amps. It will work for what ever oven you choose.

The suggestion of putting 14-50 receptical is a bad idea. Ovens canít be plugged in. A range can but I believe we are talking about wall oven.

This is easy.


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Re: danger Will Robinson... old red neck wiring.
« Reply #21 on: December 15, 2017, 10:33:08 am »

Run a line for 40 amps. It will work for what ever oven you choose.
I am not in any hurry and can know in advance what oven will be in that hole for the rest of my life.

BTW when I was a kid growing up in NJ our entire house had a 40A service.
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The suggestion of putting 14-50 receptical is a bad idea. Ovens canít be plugged in. A range can but I believe we are talking about wall oven.
yes, I'm looking to add a junction box instead of loose wires hanging out in the back of my lower cupboard, like now
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This is easy.
easy is tying into the old tails.... which I suspect any paid installer here would do without complaint (git er dun).

I am willing to up my game, but not accommodating the next owner's pizza oven.
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One thing that I find encouraging when my new electrician was kicking tires in my place that he didn't melt down or lecture me when he saw my DIY ground bonds... Instead he shared horror stories about problem homes he has worked on in the area.

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Re: danger Will Robinson... old red neck wiring.
« Reply #22 on: December 15, 2017, 11:09:07 am »

I am not in any hurry and can know in advance what oven will be in that hole for the rest of my life.

BTW when I was a kid growing up in NJ our entire house had a 40A service. yes, I'm looking to add a junction box instead of loose wires hanging out in the back of my lower cupboard, like now easy is tying into the old tails.... which I suspect any paid installer here would do without complaint (git er dun).

I am willing to up my game, but not accommodating the next owner's pizza oven. One thing that I find encouraging when my new electrician was kicking tires in my place that he didn't melt down or lecture me when he saw my DIY ground bonds... Instead he shared horror stories about problem homes he has worked on in the area.

JR

The "git 'er done" mentality is how shit like you find in your house got done.  It's how most of the homeowner/brother in law  electrical & mechanical was done in the houses I flipped 20 years ago.

I'm thinking your electrician looked at your kludge and thought "well, at least this actually *grounds* the offending parts".  And that's better than most of what he finds, methinks...
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Re: danger Will Robinson... old red neck wiring.
« Reply #23 on: December 15, 2017, 12:38:23 pm »

My house should be named "not to code".
 
There are two 240V leads into the open junction box under the stove top so unclear what is coming/going exactly where.

JR

220, 240, whatever it takes........ 8)
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Re: danger Will Robinson... old red neck wiring.
« Reply #24 on: December 15, 2017, 06:58:07 pm »

You, sir, are fast on the irony uptake. ;)

But is your irony plugged into a groundedy outlety?
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« Reply #25 on: December 25, 2017, 08:24:32 pm »

The only question I have, is with all the amazing wiring stories over the years, if you hire a real electrician, how would he know where to start?
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« Reply #26 on: December 26, 2017, 10:43:18 am »

The only question I have, is with all the amazing wiring stories over the years, if you hire a real electrician, how would he know where to start?
I quickly disabused him of any notion that I was looking for a complete home rewire. He asked about replacing the old school fuse box (while we need to check it out while he is working in the area).  :o 

Most people in my situation around here would just wire the new wall oven into the old power drop, so this is found work for him compared to his typical customer. I'm fixing something that isn't broke, just not to code (not even close, no neutral to bootleg a ground to).

I was relieved that when I showed him my DIY safety grounding of water heater, and laundry room outlet (with GFCI) he didn't lecture me, and instead appeared OK with it ( I kind of expected a bid to rewire at least those). 

He shared some war stories about my neighbors homes (fire hazards).   

JR

PS: I just bit the bullet and ordered a replacement wall oven (10% 0ff).  15A draw with 20A breaker recommended.  On christmas morning instead of the pitter patter of reindeer on the roof, I awoke to the rap,rap,rap of my in-wall heat pump self destructing... so another new appliance on order. Bad christmas for budget and not one of them a present. If I work this out right I will have the electrician with his strong back helper around to help me lift the several heavy things that need lifting...  Oven will be 100# + the heat pump is 96#(about 4" up the living room wall, and I still have an anode I can't break loose in my hot water heater, so I can put some rented muscle to good use.
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« Reply #27 on: December 26, 2017, 05:32:30 pm »

I quickly disabused him of any notion that I was looking for a complete home rewire. He asked about replacing the old school fuse box (while we need to check it out while he is working in the area).  :o 

Most people in my situation around here would just wire the new wall oven into the old power drop, so this is found work for him compared to his typical customer. I'm fixing something that isn't broke, just not to code (not even close, no neutral to bootleg a ground to).

I was relieved that when I showed him my DIY safety grounding of water heater, and laundry room outlet (with GFCI) he didn't lecture me, and instead appeared OK with it ( I kind of expected a bid to rewire at least those). 

He shared some war stories about my neighbors homes (fire hazards).   

JR

PS: I just bit the bullet and ordered a replacement wall oven (10% 0ff).  15A draw with 20A breaker recommended.  On christmas morning instead of the pitter patter of reindeer on the roof, I awoke to the rap,rap,rap of my in-wall heat pump self destructing... so another new appliance on order. Bad christmas for budget and not one of them a present. If I work this out right I will have the electrician with his strong back helper around to help me lift the several heavy things that need lifting...  Oven will be 100# + the heat pump is 96#(about 4" up the living room wall, and I still have an anode I can't break loose in my hot water heater, so I can put some rented muscle to good use.


Your stories always make me smile - the dead-pan, matter-of-fact delivery.  Someone ought to take all the posts about your home and create a book.   Priceless.


Hope your holidays start looking up.


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Re: danger Will Robinson... old red neck wiring.
« Reply #28 on: December 26, 2017, 07:49:37 pm »

The only question I have, is with all the amazing wiring stories over the years, if you hire a real electrician, how would he know where to start?

Or when to stop...
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« Reply #29 on: December 26, 2017, 09:48:31 pm »

Or when to stop...
You stop when the customer is out of money.

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