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John Roberts {JR}

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unbelieveable PAs in movies/TV
« on: November 24, 2017, 01:24:42 PM »

last night I watched Peggy Sue got married, a pretty good old movie, but I noticed an odd PA speaker during a live musical performance scene.

The small stage had a pair of Bose 901s mounted up on the back wall, turned around so the rear drivers were facing forward.  I do not doubt that this was a typical old school PA system, just not in 1960 years before Bose corporation was founded and started selling the ubiquitous 901s.  ::)

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Re: unbelieveable PAs in movies/TV
« Reply #1 on: November 24, 2017, 01:29:12 PM »

last night I watched Peggy Sue got married, a pretty good old movie, but I noticed an odd PA speaker during a live musical performance scene.

The small stage had a pair of Bose 901s mounted up on the back wall, turned around so the rear drivers were facing forward.  I do not doubt that this was a typical old school PA system, just not in 1960 years before Bose corporation was founded and started selling the ubiquitous 901s.  ::)

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Bose had commercial speakers in the 70's that looked like that but had two  larger ports on the front to increase low end response (I presume, it did't work)  The model 802.  It looks like these are still in the catalog (albeit a later incarnation).
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Re: unbelieveable PAs in movies/TV
« Reply #2 on: November 24, 2017, 01:35:20 PM »

Bose had commercial speakers in the 70's that looked like that but had two  larger ports on the front to increase low end response (I presume, it did't work)  The model 802.  It looks like these are still in the catalog (albeit a later incarnation).
But not in 1960.... 

The speakers in the movies were stock old school 901s just turned around.

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Re: unbelieveable PAs in movies/TV
« Reply #3 on: November 24, 2017, 02:01:44 PM »

last night I watched Peggy Sue got married, a pretty good old movie, but I noticed an odd PA speaker during a live musical performance scene.

The small stage had a pair of Bose 901s mounted up on the back wall, turned around so the rear drivers were facing forward.  I do not doubt that this was a typical old school PA system, just not in 1960 years before Bose corporation was founded and started selling the ubiquitous 901s.  ::)

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Since when did Hollywood care about being accurate?

I remember in a Doors movie, the keyboard track was clearly a B3 organ, yet he was playing a Wurlitzer piano.

But the average viewer simply doesn't care.  Just look at how many people lip sync these days, and the audience could care less-as long as they hear "their song".   :( :( :(
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« Reply #4 on: November 24, 2017, 05:09:57 PM »

But not in 1960.... 

The speakers in the movies were stock old school 901s just turned around.

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What bugs me is recent "period pieces" set in the 1950s through 1970s that use Shure Beta 58s (which were not released until the late 1980s) instead of SM 58s.
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« Reply #5 on: November 24, 2017, 06:26:11 PM »

What bugs me is recent "period pieces" set in the 1950s through 1970s that use Shure Beta 58s (which were not released until the late 1980s) instead of SM 58s.
There you go getting picky about small details---- :) :)
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« Reply #6 on: November 24, 2017, 10:14:12 PM »

You gotta see the bollywood movies here! Compared to that Hollywood is a lesson in period accuracy

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« Reply #7 on: November 25, 2017, 12:58:44 AM »

What bugs me is recent "period pieces" set in the 1950s through 1970s that use Shure Beta 58s (which were not released until the late 1980s) instead of SM 58s.
You mean Unisphere IIIs?

And Scott, Bose put those bullet ports on the home speakers as well around the same time as the "pro" boxes.  The original PA speakers didn't have them.  Just 8 speakers in a pointy black Tolex box with black grillecloth.
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« Reply #8 on: November 25, 2017, 01:27:33 AM »

You mean Unisphere IIIs?
Yes, before 1966...
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Re: unbelieveable PAs in movies/TV
« Reply #9 on: November 25, 2017, 11:19:46 AM »

Bose had commercial speakers in the 70's that looked like that but had two  larger ports on the front to increase low end response (I presume, it did't work)  The model 802.  It looks like these are still in the catalog (albeit a later incarnation).
While we can question the original design premise of 901 (and many have), but the engineering implementation was reasonably solid. The original 901 was a relatively small volume sealed box, with active EQ to complement weak LF and HF response. The later port was added to reduce the amount of headroom robbing bass boost required to square up the low end response.

Back to your original program already in process.

JR

PS: In the movie the talent was probably lip syncing too, but that could be considered acting.
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