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andy foster

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Help me choose a sub woofer dxs18 vs jbl818xlf vs thomann 118a
« on: November 10, 2017, 08:32:32 AM »

Help me choose a sub woofer dxs18 vs jbl818xlf vs thomann 118a

the thing thats bugging me is that i can get 4 thomann subs for the price of 2 of the named brands give or take a little, and would have double the power and more flexability for hire out purposes.

yamaha dxs18 Band Pass https://www.thomann.de/gb/yamaha_dxs_18.htm

JBL818xlf bass reflex https://www.thomann.de/gb/jbl_prx818xlfw.htm

thomann horn loaded sub https://www.thomann.de/gb/the_box_pro_achat_118_a.htm

and if the thomann subs are decent, then a little more money would lead me onto this system which appears to be a great buy for £3200 as the individual price per speaker adds up to £4000.

https://www.thomann.de/gb/the_box_pro_achat_rock_n_roll_bundle_aktiv.htm?ref=search_prv_7

thoughts on this are much appriciated as im ready for my next purchase but struggling some what.
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Re: Help me choose a sub woofer dxs18 vs jbl818xlf vs thomann 118a
« Reply #1 on: November 10, 2017, 12:44:56 PM »

Andy, all three will sound completely different from each other. Better have a listen to each and decide for yourself. Best would be to find them at rental houses, and try them for a weekend.
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Re: Help me choose a sub woofer dxs18 vs jbl818xlf vs thomann 118a
« Reply #2 on: November 10, 2017, 01:00:26 PM »

Andy, all three will sound completely different from each other. Better have a listen to each and decide for yourself. Best would be to find them at rental houses, and try them for a weekend.
Chris.

got no way of listening to the thomann or jbl at this point, i was all set on the yamaha after reading endless internet/specs. would be taking a risk on this particular thomann sub, but having heard alot of thomann achat gear in bars that i work at i feel they must be good!

in a right quandry atm  ???
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Re: Help me choose a sub woofer dxs18 vs jbl818xlf vs thomann 118a
« Reply #3 on: November 10, 2017, 01:04:52 PM »

got no way of listening to the thomann or jbl at this point, i was all set on the yamaha after reading endless internet/specs. would be taking a risk on this particular thomann sub, but having heard alot of thomann achat gear in bars that i work at i feel they must be good!

in a right quandry atm  ???

i forgot to mention the rig will be for house music playback only.
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Re: Help me choose a sub woofer dxs18 vs jbl818xlf vs thomann 118a
« Reply #4 on: November 10, 2017, 05:41:29 PM »

Hi Andy, the Yamaha DXS18 is my choice as i have 4 of them and they amaze me every time i use them. I have used JBL before for subs PRX618XLF and VRX918s and they put out more bass then them easily on all frequencies. What i like most about them is that they sound good  in front of them, middle of dance floor and back of room. With the JBL i would start losing low end in the middle of room and back of room its almost gone. I think the Yamaha is more focused on how it puts out the bass but it sounds massive and i have been asked to turn it down a lot of times. I have been told early on if you can hear the bass rattle the building outside your playing at then your rig is solid, i walk outside and you can hear the bass fill the building. For tops JBL all they way as i like there sound for highs and mids. The Yamaha are built like tanks, real plywood and super stable, they won't move at all. I would like to get 4 more just to see what that would sound like. I recently used them for a EDM event, outdoors and everyone was amazed at the sound only 4 of them was putting out and they don't overheat or turn off. Thanks Derek DDS Productions
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Re: Help me choose a sub woofer dxs18 vs jbl818xlf vs thomann 118a
« Reply #5 on: November 11, 2017, 08:31:58 AM »

I would suspect that the DXS will be the best bang for the buck,  but it’s band pass so always going to be a bit “one note bass”.

The JBLs have a lot of support here and I have SRX 828’s, which for the money are probably unbeatable.  The Thomann is a budget box, you get what you pay for.
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Re: Help me choose a sub woofer dxs18 vs jbl818xlf vs thomann 118a
« Reply #6 on: November 11, 2017, 10:46:25 AM »

This is not a sound quality test; however, if you look at the frequency response curves:

DXS18: https://usa.yamaha.com/files/download/other_assets/9/811869/dxs_frequency_response.pdf

and PRX 718XLF:  https://www.jblpro.com/ProductAttachments/JBL_PRX718XLF_v5.pdf

It is pretty clear that the XLF's have a much flatter response curve (which would be expected considering the two different designs these subs use).

Having said that, I have heard more than a few people prefer the pure output of the DXS18 despite its obvious frequency bump.

For me, the weight of my XLF's is so pleasing that I can't stomach the thought of swapping them out..... and they have more than enough output for my purposes.
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« Reply #7 on: November 12, 2017, 09:32:32 AM »

Traditional horn-loaded subs (as I suspect the Thomann model is) usually need to work in multiples to perform well - the combined mouth area is what helps them work, since most bass horns are built under-sized for use in singles.

If you'll always take all of the subs, I'd get the horns. If you'll want to use 1, 2 or 4 as you like, go for a reflex or bandpass sub.

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Re: Help me choose a sub woofer dxs18 vs jbl818xlf vs thomann 118a
« Reply #8 on: November 12, 2017, 10:34:14 AM »

The Yamaha DXS-18 is great sounding sub. Lots of SPL and very even frequency response. (The engineers at Nexo obviously know what their doing) I haven’t heard the Thomas sub but the JBL XLF is not in the same league.
Help me choose a sub woofer dxs18 vs jbl818xlf vs thomann 118a

the thing thats bugging me is that i can get 4 thomann subs for the price of 2 of the named brands give or take a little, and would have double the power and more flexability for hire out purposes.

yamaha dxs18 Band Pass https://www.thomann.de/gb/yamaha_dxs_18.htm

JBL818xlf bass reflex https://www.thomann.de/gb/jbl_prx818xlfw.htm

thomann horn loaded sub https://www.thomann.de/gb/the_box_pro_achat_118_a.htm

and if the thomann subs are decent, then a little more money would lead me onto this system which appears to be a great buy for £3200 as the individual price per speaker adds up to £4000.

https://www.thomann.de/gb/the_box_pro_achat_rock_n_roll_bundle_aktiv.htm?ref=search_prv_7

thoughts on this are much appriciated as im ready for my next purchase but struggling some what.
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Re: Help me choose a sub woofer dxs18 vs jbl818xlf vs thomann 118a
« Reply #9 on: November 12, 2017, 03:52:50 PM »

The Yamaha DXS-18 is great sounding sub. Lots of SPL and very even frequency response. (The engineers at Nexo obviously know what their doing) I haven’t heard the Thomas sub but the JBL XLF is not in the same league.

jbl is worse or better than the yamaha?
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