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It slices, it dices, it tests for more AC wiring failures...
« on: November 05, 2017, 10:33:44 pm »

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06Y68NRDV/

What's a "Live Neutral Reverse"?  It shows "Hot/Neu Reverse" as a separate item.

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Re: It slices, it dices, it tests for more AC wiring failures...
« Reply #1 on: November 05, 2017, 11:44:41 pm »

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06Y68NRDV/

What's a "Live Neutral Reverse"?  It shows "Hot/Neu Reverse" as a separate item.

Don't know. But I'm pretty sure you can't get all three bulbs to light up equally bright with any wiring condition I can think of, except for maybe an Edison outlet mis-wired to 240 volts. But I'll have to trace that out to se what's possible. Here's a schematic of how these things are wired.

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Re: It slices, it dices, it tests for more AC wiring failures...
« Reply #2 on: November 06, 2017, 10:50:13 am »

Don't know. But I'm pretty sure you can't get all three bulbs to light up equally bright with any wiring condition I can think of, except for maybe an Edison outlet mis-wired to 240 volts. But I'll have to trace that out to se what's possible. Here's a schematic of how these things are wired.
From inspection it appears a properly wired outlet supplies 54Vac to N1, 60Vac to N2, and 54Vac to N3

an open ground still provides 54Vac to N1, 77v at junction R7&R8, 45Vac to N2, 42Vac at N3

an open neutral  provides 54Vac to N3, 42vac at junction R7 & R8, 46vac to N2, 27vac at N1

Without finishing for all permutations that does not appear to line up with the device indications. Neon lamps have different sensitivities but probably light at 35-40Vac or so.

It is too early in the morning for me to try to figure out what is inside that new puppy.

It would really be nice if that Live whatever is RPBG but I couldn't figure out how to do it without grabbing a local reference. but???? for <$10 I wouldn't be too optimistic...  the written sales copy at amazon notes 5 patterns to read not 7.  ::)

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Re: It slices, it dices, it tests for more AC wiring failures...
« Reply #3 on: November 06, 2017, 12:36:22 pm »

IF this detects RPBG (I seriously doubt that it does) their marketing people struck out.
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Re: It slices, it dices, it tests for more AC wiring failures...
« Reply #4 on: November 06, 2017, 01:40:41 pm »

IF this detects RPBG (I seriously doubt that it does) their marketing people struck out.

It can't... Just ask JR.

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Re: It slices, it dices, it tests for more AC wiring failures...
« Reply #5 on: November 06, 2017, 01:58:10 pm »

It can't... Just ask JR.

My intention in posting about this was to see if the "live neutral reverse" was a way to indirectly find a RPBG, which doesn't appear to be the case.
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Re: It slices, it dices, it tests for more AC wiring failures...
« Reply #6 on: November 06, 2017, 02:01:39 pm »

It can't... Just ask JR.
If they can detect RPBG in a simple <$10 tester, they are smarter than me.... possible, just unlikely IMO.

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Re: It slices, it dices, it tests for more AC wiring failures...
« Reply #7 on: November 06, 2017, 02:15:21 pm »

If they can detect RPBG in a simple <$10 tester, they are smarter than me.... possible, just unlikely IMO.

Don't hold your breath. Here's the "English" manual with a short excerpt. This was likely written by a native Chinese speaker and converted into various languages. The EST01 appears to be nothing more than a standard 3-light outlet tester with a fancy test diagram on the front. Nothing special at all...
https://www.tacklifetools.com/product/product/downfile/id/15

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Re: It slices, it dices, it tests for more AC wiring failures...
« Reply #8 on: November 06, 2017, 07:11:44 pm »

Don't hold your breath. Here's the "English" manual with a short excerpt. This was likely written by a native Chinese speaker and converted into various languages. The EST01 appears to be nothing more than a standard 3-light outlet tester with a fancy test diagram on the front. Nothing special at all...
https://www.tacklifetools.com/product/product/downfile/id/15

I'm sorry to say, I believe I may have lost a few IQ points after reading that.
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Re: It slices, it dices, it tests for more AC wiring failures...
« Reply #9 on: November 06, 2017, 07:45:52 pm »

I'm sorry to say, I believe I may have lost a few IQ points after reading that.
I need to work “Creeping Switch Test” into a conversation😂😂😂
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