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[Gary Weller]

The band I mix for is thinking of getting a new PA and keeping their old JBL EON rig as a spare/practice rig. Light weight is required. Is the DSR112 still the king in it's range? What sub would be a good match PRX 818 or KW181? I'd like to do subs on aux without a DSP but I see the DSR's cross @120 and the PRX cross @80 and the KW @ 100. Desk is Si2 Expression.

[Stephen Kirby]

Note that with the subs hot, the actual acoustic crossover will be higher than the DSP settings.  In practical terms, I kind of like a bit of a hole in the 100-150 range.  Keeps the mud down with live bands.  Especially if there are loud guitars and 4-12s.  I use an external Xillica processor with my DSRs and still have their crossover point up at 120 while the subs are at 100Hz.

[Gary Weller]

Note that with the subs hot, the actual acoustic crossover will be higher than the DSP settings.  In practical terms, I kind of like a bit of a hole in the 100-150 range.  Keeps the mud down with live bands.  Especially if there are loud guitars and 4-12s.  I use an external Xillica processor with my DSRs and still have their crossover point up at 120 while the subs are at 100Hz.

I like to do that as well, I'm thinking the KW181 might be the way to go with their 100Hz vs JBL's 80Hz. Actually this band is quiet, even the guitar player, all IEMs except for the guitar player who has a wedge.

[Jay Marr]

The band I mix for is thinking of getting a new PA and keeping their old JBL EON rig as a spare/practice rig. Light weight is required. Is the DSR112 still the king in it's range? What sub would be a good match PRX 818 or KW181? I'd like to do subs on aux without a DSP but I see the DSR's cross @120 and the PRX cross @80 and the KW @ 100. Desk is Si2 Expression.

If I had to buy an all powered 12/18 system tomorrow, I would buy Yamaha DSR112 and Yorkville LS808 subs.
I have the DSRs and love them.  I've tried the Yorkville's and they have outstanding punch...great for band bar gigs.
If those are too heavy, then KW or PRX6/7 series.

[Bradford "BJ" James]

I've used DSR112 and KW118 quite a bit and found it to be a good combo. 1 KW118 per DSR is fine, but 2 is better. No DSP needed even when running aux/group fed subs. Just wish they would fix the damn handles on them.

[Mal Brown]

I own 4 kw-181, 5 K12 and 2 K10...  subs and 3 k12's are rented out this weekend.  The stuff survives the rental use fine - every thing has the QSC bag...  sounds good out of the box.  They have the rep of sound not to

So hot at the limits - but... what does ?  I'm guessing that the DSP is going into extreme limiting so the speaker doesn't lunch...

QSC and 6 year warranty,  never needed it.  Nice to know it's there.

So... if I were buying tomorrow.  Kw181's and K12's is what I'd be buying.

[Steve Garris]

Both the PRX and KW181 sub's are great for their intended use. I personally prefer having a matched system, so I would go with the JBL because I prefer their tops over the KW stuff. The DSR is a very good box - I use them for monitors and they are rock solid. I still prefer the sound of my PRX615's for the mains. YMMV

[Debbie Dunkley]

Been using DSR112's with PRX718xlf's for years and I consider it to be one of the best bar rigs for the money. I use a single sub in the smaller bars, turn it up a little and it fills the place.
I would also use KW181 - great sub for sound and robustness but I like the PRX subs because I find they fit into smaller places easier than the KW's due to the fact they are a little taller but smaller footprint.
Case in point, when i use my SRX subs (little wider than the KW but less deep), they don't fit as well on small stages or they stick out too far into the dance area. Large venues it won't matter.

[Andrew Henderson]

I have a DSR112/KW181 rig (2 of each) that I use for smaller stages. Even on larger outdoor stages where budget limits the size of the system brought in, they have filled the bill nicely. It's incredible how great it sounds, even without an external crossover. If you are worried about the "gap" in the built-in crossovers, run your subs from an aux, and you should be able to high pass the tops at 100Hz from the main bus on most digital consoles.

[Joe Jordan]

[I just purchased a pair of RCF HD32A they are hard to beat for the price.

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