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[Chris Campbell]

I'm looking for a mixer with "On" instead of "Mute." I've only seen this on Yamaha mixers but I would like to find something cheaper if possible. Did Yamaha pioneer this reversal of the standard? It would seem that they were brave, but I really like it.

[Robert Lofgren]

The x32 can be switched to this standard.

I think that this is a broadcast ‘standard’ so you might find this on radio station mixers and similar.

[Kevin McDonough]

The x32 can be switched to this standard.

I think that this is a broadcast ‘standard’ so you might find this on radio station mixers and similar.

Soundcraft also tend to be like this, certainly the expression and VI1 that I often use.

K

[Chris Campbell]

The x32 can be switched to this standard.

So the "mute" button simply becomes an "On?" That could be confusing.

I think that this is a broadcast ‘standard’ so you might find this on radio station mixers and similar.

Actually, I had a feeling that this was the case. Its interesting that this difference exists between broadcast and the rest. I always found the "mute" to be a curious concept, because its activating a control which serves to DEactivate something!

[Keith Broughton]

So the "mute" button simply becomes an "On?" That could be confusing.

Actually, I had a feeling that this was the case. Its interesting that this difference exists between broadcast and the rest. I always found the "mute" to be a curious concept, because its activating a control which serves to DEactivate something!

It's like a clutch on a car.
When you take your foot off the pedal, you are activating the "clutch" mechanism

[Jim McKeveny]

I'm looking for a mixer with "On" instead of "Mute." I've only seen this on Yamaha mixers but I would like to find something cheaper if possible. Did Yamaha pioneer this reversal of the standard? It would seem that they were brave, but I really like it.

There is no "standard". It is what the silkscreened graphics say, and  the perceived sophistication of likely operators. This is why some Yamaha products light-on = channel on and some light-on = channel mute.

I've been burned by this: 18 hour day on one Show A with PM5D where light-on =Mute =Off. Fly out. No sleep. New show. Show B. Another 18 hour day. M7CL. Light-on = Off. AND the color differences are orange v. red, not something universal like green v. red. Eeeesh! The only "standard" is there is no standard.

[Steve M Smith]

This is why some Yamaha products light-on = channel on and some light-on = channel mute.

I have found Mix Wizards both ways too.


Steve.

[John Roberts {JR}]

This seems a pretty arbitrary reason to select a console based upon.

JR

[TJ (Tom) Cornish]

There is no "standard". It is what the silkscreened graphics say, and  the perceived sophistication of likely operators. This is why some Yamaha products light-on = channel on and some light-on = channel mute.

I've been burned by this: 18 hour day on one Show A with PM5D where light-on =Mute =Off. Fly out. No sleep. New show. Show B. Another 18 hour day. M7CL. Light-on = Off. AND the color differences are orange v. red, not something universal like green v. red. Eeeesh! The only "standard" is there is no standard.

M7 follows the Yamaha convention of "On" light = channel On. 

I prefer the Yamaha methodology of "On" rather than "Mute" and also their use of dBFS instead of the opaque and arbitrary "+dB" concept of many digital mixers trying to emulate analog systems and the corresponding bad user behavior, but I agree with JR that they are not enough reason to pay premium Yamaha prices relative to less expensive and often more capable offerings from other brands (A&H GLD/DLive, among others).

[Mike Caldwell]

I have found Mix Wizards both ways too.


Steve.

I think it was the earlier Mix Wizards that
were channel on light on with a green LED

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