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Author Topic: GEQ's Just won't go away......  (Read 1144 times)

John Roberts {JR}

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Re: GEQ's Just won't go away......
« Reply #20 on: October 12, 2017, 10:22:43 am »

It's a service business, eh?  If the BE wants an external word clock we'll do it (and add it to the invoice).  At least the DN360 will make an audible change in the audio when desired...
customer is always right (even when wrong).

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John L Nobile

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Re: GEQ's Just won't go away......
« Reply #21 on: October 12, 2017, 10:49:51 am »

I've used PEQ's since I started and was never happy with GEQ's. It was always impossible to get a PEQ from rental companies in my area. I started to bring my own but they were sometimes a pain to patch. 

But now with digital boards, I always have a PEQ on the mains. I love modern technology.
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Re: GEQ's Just won't go away......
« Reply #22 on: October 12, 2017, 11:05:18 am »

I've used PEQ's since I started and was never happy with GEQ's. It was always impossible to get a PEQ from rental companies in my area. I started to bring my own but they were sometimes a pain to patch. 

But now with digital boards, I always have a PEQ on the mains. I love modern technology.
I designed and sold a parametric EQ kit back in 1979.... 

Classically GEQ were preferred for live SR where there was time pressure to get sound OK.... 1/3oct for monitor use, 2/3 oct for sound shaping.

Recording and fixed install generally had the time to tweak so parametric were more effective.

I put parametric into premium console channels back in the 70's but fixed or sweepable EQ were far more common in console channels.

I did one monitor console (at Peavey) with sweepable notch filters in the subs (right tool for that job).

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Re: GEQ's Just won't go away......
« Reply #23 on: October 12, 2017, 11:18:11 am »

I designed and sold a parametric EQ kit back in 1979.... 


I think I got my first PEQ in 1978 or 79. It was an Ashley SC66 and it never failed me. I still have a few KT DN410's and Meyer CP10's gathering dust. Great units but it's sad to see them regulated to "door stop" status.
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Re: GEQ's Just won't go away......
« Reply #24 on: October 12, 2017, 11:58:44 am »

Wouldn't the talent be analog?

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Re: GEQ's Just won't go away......
« Reply #25 on: October 12, 2017, 12:05:29 pm »

That would depend on whether or not the talent uses Autotune!

If they use Autotune, would they be considered "talent?"  ::)

I think GEQ's at FOH are nice to have for quick tweaking. As long as you are only making minor cuts to an individual frequency and not whole groups of frequencies.

Definitely don't want large cuts or boosts....or the typical DJ smiley face. 
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Re: GEQ's Just won't go away......
« Reply #26 on: October 12, 2017, 04:37:26 pm »

I believe in a GEQ for system output at the DSP level. Set then forget, and I like GEQ's for monitors. I do however like a nice 4 band PEQ on the channel strip. To each his own, and all types of EQ's have a place in the mix when used properly. GEQ's will live on with a practical use forever. To think they have no use is just being silly.
I have put much thought to the peq vs geq for my needs and decided to go peq. Now I don't see many for sale new and the couple found for sale have only 120v power supplies and/or only stereo. If the consensus is peq ,why have the manufacturers not responded?   joey
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Re: GEQ's Just won't go away......
« Reply #27 on: October 12, 2017, 04:46:10 pm »

I have put much thought to the peq vs geq for my needs and decided to go peq. Now I don't see many for sale new and the couple found for sale have only 120v power supplies and/or only stereo. If the consensus is peq ,why have the manufacturers not responded?   joey

Because they are built into the digital mixers and system processors already?  The market for outboard EQ is mostly boutique studio stuff.

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Re: GEQ's Just won't go away......
« Reply #28 on: October 12, 2017, 05:12:10 pm »

I have put much thought to the peq vs geq for my needs and decided to go peq. Now I don't see many for sale new and the couple found for sale have only 120v power supplies and/or only stereo. If the consensus is peq ,why have the manufacturers not responded?   joey

Probably the lack of a good business case for anything but very high end gear. A friend of mine sells THESE.

Not cheap, but great electronics.

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« Reply #29 on: October 12, 2017, 06:01:44 pm »

Probably the lack of a good business case for anything but very high end gear. A friend of mine sells THESE.

Not cheap, but great electronics.

Mac

Proof positive that not all EQ's have been created equal.
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