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Gordon Brinton

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Wanting to upgrade to 5GHz wifi control. Will this work?
« on: October 08, 2017, 09:32:16 am »

I am currently using a hardware DMX controller, but am tired of being tied to an AC wall outlet. I want to use the same Android tablet to control lights that I use to control my mixer. I want to simply switch back and forth between mixer and lighting apps while I roam around the venue.

I already have a 5GHz wifi/router in use for the mixer. I am thinking that I can just plug an Ethernet to DMX converter into that same router and address the lights that way from the control app. Is this possible as long as all IP addresses are unique, or will there be a data bottleneck somewhere?

Being a complete newb to this method, I could also use a few recommendations for converters and control apps. My needs are simple with only about 16 fixtures for small venues.

Thanks.
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Re: Wanting to upgrade to 5GHz wifi control. Will this work?
« Reply #1 on: October 08, 2017, 01:23:03 pm »

I think both ADJ and Chauvet make products for this now.. don't know if there are any other more pro systems available. Have a look at this.. http://www.adj.com/airstream-dmx-bridge
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Re: Wanting to upgrade to 5GHz wifi control. Will this work?
« Reply #2 on: October 09, 2017, 12:27:09 pm »

For some apps and some tablets, when you switch, the other app loses sync and there may be delays or other undesirable effects.



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Re: Wanting to upgrade to 5GHz wifi control. Will this work?
« Reply #3 on: October 12, 2017, 06:12:35 pm »

I think both ADJ and Chauvet make products for this now.. don't know if there are any other more pro systems available. Have a look at this.. http://www.adj.com/airstream-dmx-bridge

Maybe it's me, but I am having trouble finding an ethernet-to-dmx product on either of those pages. But thanks anyway.
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Re: Wanting to upgrade to 5GHz wifi control. Will this work?
« Reply #4 on: October 12, 2017, 06:13:43 pm »

For some apps and some tablets, when you switch, the other app loses sync and there may be delays or other undesirable effects.

It sounds like this is going to be an expensive experiment just to see if it works. Thanks for the heads up.
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Re: Wanting to upgrade to 5GHz wifi control. Will this work?
« Reply #5 on: October 16, 2017, 12:16:37 pm »

I think I'm understanding your question correctly: you want to control your audio and your lights with a single tablet running on the same WiFi network. This seems totally feasible to me.
  • put your wifi router near your lights and mixer
  • Get this: https://dmxking.com/artnetsacn/edmx1-pro
  • connect the eDMX1 to your wifi router on one end and your first DMX light on the other
  • connect your tablet to your wifi network, open up your audio control app which should find your mixer then switch to your lighting control app which should find the eDMX1
Note: ENTTEC makes a similar box (https://www.enttec.com/us/products/controls/dmx-over-ethernet/ode-mk2-open-dmx-ethernet/) but it is almost twice as expensive than the eDMX1 from DMX King

The biggest issue for me with this setup is the actual lighting control app. I have Luminaire and Vibrio for iPad which are both ok but nothing like running lights from a laptop-based application. Let us know how this works for you!


I am currently using a hardware DMX controller, but am tired of being tied to an AC wall outlet. I want to use the same Android tablet to control lights that I use to control my mixer. I want to simply switch back and forth between mixer and lighting apps while I roam around the venue.

I already have a 5GHz wifi/router in use for the mixer. I am thinking that I can just plug an Ethernet to DMX converter into that same router and address the lights that way from the control app. Is this possible as long as all IP addresses are unique, or will there be a data bottleneck somewhere?

Being a complete newb to this method, I could also use a few recommendations for converters and control apps. My needs are simple with only about 16 fixtures for small venues.

Thanks.
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Re: Wanting to upgrade to 5GHz wifi control. Will this work?
« Reply #6 on: Yesterday at 07:57:41 am »

I think I'm understanding your question correctly: you want to control your audio and your lights with a single tablet running on the same WiFi network. This seems totally feasible to me.
  • put your wifi router near your lights and mixer
  • Get this: https://dmxking.com/artnetsacn/edmx1-pro
  • connect the eDMX1 to your wifi router on one end and your first DMX light on the other
  • connect your tablet to your wifi network, open up your audio control app which should find your mixer then switch to your lighting control app which should find the eDMX1
Note: ENTTEC makes a similar box (https://www.enttec.com/us/products/controls/dmx-over-ethernet/ode-mk2-open-dmx-ethernet/) but it is almost twice as expensive than the eDMX1 from DMX King

The biggest issue for me with this setup is the actual lighting control app. I have Luminaire and Vibrio for iPad which are both ok but nothing like running lights from a laptop-based application. Let us know how this works for you!

Thanks a million.

I did purchase an eDMX1-Pro and it works.

(I also just recently acquired a new iPad, so now I can run either Android or iPad versions for both mixer and lights.)

Anyway, just to test things out, I installed a cheap DMX control app called Lighting Pad. Everything works correctly except that fades from one cue/scene to the next are not smooth. I want some of my cues to fade out slowly while the next cue fades in. Currently, it is very jerky looking as the fades seem to be done in different steps of brightness almost like a strobe effect.

I don't know whether this is a problem with the eDMX1-Pro or with the control app. Before I spend more money to upgrade my control app, can anyone confirm the fades will be smooth with a better app using an eDMX1?

Thanks.
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Re: Wanting to upgrade to 5GHz wifi control. Will this work?
« Reply #7 on: Yesterday at 11:50:50 am »


I don't know whether this is a problem with the eDMX1-Pro or with the control app. Before I spend more money to upgrade my control app, can anyone confirm the fades will be smooth with a better app using an eDMX1?

Thanks.

Install the free Vibrio app mentioned in the previous post and see.
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