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Re: Gym speaker setup
« Reply #10 on: October 03, 2017, 12:57:00 pm »

They are afraid of speakers falling from being hit by balls. I was told that in wall speakers are the only option that is acceptable.  For VBS itís setup in a fan shape to cover the whole basketball court. VBS is the main even in the gym.  We do junior church there, but itís only on one end inside the 3 point line.   The stage is 24x16. Itís set off the wall about 4í.  One of the options I have provided was mounting a Renkus Heinz Iconyx on the back wall.  I was told that in wall was the only option and that wasnít going to go.

There are solutions, but none of the options so far come anywhere close.  Is this for your use for church services or is the idea to provide comprehensive sound for a variety of uses including sports?
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Re: Gym speaker setup
« Reply #11 on: October 03, 2017, 06:26:53 pm »

Y'all need to git real.  This is generally poor advice and the "easy to hang" part is extremely ill-advised.

Mounting in a gym with a lift takes roughly 20 minutes a speaker...not sure what your definition of easy is?
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Re: Gym speaker setup
« Reply #12 on: October 03, 2017, 06:33:13 pm »

Mounting in a gym with a lift takes roughly 20 minutes a speaker...not sure what your definition of easy is?

OP clearly states the powers that be do not want hanging speakers for safety reasons.   But...

For safety, liability and insurance reasons, you cannot just get a lift and hang speakers.  To advise people that "it's easy" ignores or omits the legal and moral requirements for diong such work.

Please do not argue the point.  Such installations require certified personnel to do the work and engineering certificates regarding hang/mounting points.  This is NOT do-it-yourself work.
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Re: Gym speaker setup
« Reply #13 on: October 03, 2017, 07:23:39 pm »

OP clearly states the powers that be do not want hanging speakers for safety reasons.   But...

For safety, liability and insurance reasons, you cannot just get a lift and hang speakers.  To advise people that "it's easy" ignores or omits the legal and moral requirements for diong such work.

Please do not argue the point.  Such installations require certified personnel to do the work and engineering certificates regarding hang/mounting points.  This is NOT do-it-yourself work.

You're arguing semantics without understanding any context. No one is arguing that certified personnel wouldn't be doing the work. The idea is that a typical ceiling array doesn't involve ripping the roof off, HAZMAT, Demo, etc. and can be done in a short time period. Not suggesting that anyone with a pair of 25 foot stilts start a side job.
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Re: Gym speaker setup
« Reply #14 on: October 03, 2017, 08:46:12 pm »

David, with a lack of supporting information, it best behooves us to assume the worst. Beyond the fact that the OP said hanging speakers is NOT an option, he also stated that the quoting company 'specialises in home theatre installations." That is NOT a company I would want to trust with a fixed rigged install.

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Re: Gym speaker setup
« Reply #15 on: October 03, 2017, 08:52:28 pm »

In addition, several of the speakers you recommended are not rated for flying.
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Re: Gym speaker setup
« Reply #16 on: October 03, 2017, 10:30:01 pm »

Mounting in a gym with a lift takes roughly 20 minutes a speaker...not sure what your definition of easy is?

If you don't count running the wire through the hooks that you have had to place to follow code, properly angling each speaker after the fact with audio not just "point it that way",  etc., etc.

Start to finish is significantly longer than 25 minutes per speaker. 

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Re: Gym speaker setup
« Reply #17 on: October 03, 2017, 11:25:14 pm »

Mounting in a gym with a lift takes roughly 20 minutes a speaker...not sure what your definition of easy is?

You can't just run a lift on a gym floor. Especially if its a floating wood floor. The lift will crack it. Gotta put down 3/4" plywood everywhere you drive the lift to spread the load. Believe me, it's a HUGE pain.

A lift can scuff up even a painted concrete floor if you don't take the proper precautions.

If its a UIL listed gym nothing can be lower than 25ft.

Basketballs, volleyballs, ect have lost a lot of their inertia at 25ft. 
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Re: Gym speaker setup
« Reply #18 on: October 04, 2017, 08:45:48 am »

I should apologize for my curt response.  It is engendered by the points listed in the last few posts.  There is more to it than speaker choice, use a lift, etc, and given the usual level of experience by posters seeking advice here, "a little knowledge is a dangerous thing".
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Re: Gym speaker setup
« Reply #19 on: October 06, 2017, 01:25:00 am »

Robert, are you a volunteer?

-Ray

Yes, however I'm am the audio expert in the church. 13 years experience.  I've kind of been left out of this whole process.  I've butted into this project knowing that I'm the one the ultimately going to be looked at to fix the problem. 
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