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LCRS vs LRCS vs RLCS
« on: September 08, 2017, 10:49:29 AM »

OK, I'm wiring up a new drive rack with Left, Right, Center and Sub inputs from the console. Some of my gear is set up as Right/Left/Center/Sub. While other gear is set up with Left/Center/Right/Sub. Plus I have four Rane EQ's in the rack for guest engineer tweaking. Right now I have the EQ's set up from top to bottom as Right/Left/Center/Sub.

Any right or wrong way to do this. As I said the rack is in the process of being built so I can make it anything I want. But what do I want???

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Re: LCRS vs LRCS vs RLCS
« Reply #1 on: September 08, 2017, 11:02:22 AM »

Left always comes before Right. Whatever you do after that is up to you.

Do you actually have a center main loudspeaker setup, or is it just something like front fills?
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Re: LCRS vs LRCS vs RLCS
« Reply #2 on: September 08, 2017, 11:05:38 AM »

Why are you putting the right channel first? I've only ever heard of the left channel being the first one in any input/output drive line patching. After that it kind of depends on how your console and processing are set up. But I think most other sound guys expect to see Left as the first output channel in the group. and having an EQ set up with the right channel first would seem odd to most.

Personally, I go Left/Right/Center/Sub.
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Re: LCRS vs LRCS vs RLCS
« Reply #3 on: September 08, 2017, 11:25:24 AM »

Another vote for LRCS
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Re: LCRS vs LRCS vs RLCS
« Reply #4 on: September 08, 2017, 11:34:56 AM »

The "standard" that I see from touring acts:  Left, Right, Subs, FF, Delay 1, Delay 2 (or balcony, under balcony), etc.  We don't generally deploy L/R/C or L/C/R systems nor do we usually see BEs with showfile set up that way.
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Re: LCRS vs LRCS vs RLCS
« Reply #5 on: September 08, 2017, 11:48:10 AM »

Why are you putting the right channel first?

This was a legacy drive rack, so now I have the chance to reconfigure it to anything I want.

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Re: LCRS vs LRCS vs RLCS
« Reply #6 on: September 08, 2017, 01:44:40 PM »

This was a legacy drive rack, so now I have the chance to reconfigure it to anything I want.
Sounds like this rack was put together by a stage hand who has more experience working in the electrics department, where they start their numbering at stage left (our right).


Since you're redoing it anyway, go ahead and start with the left channel being from the FOH perspective (which would be stage right, and the opposite of the way sparkies look at things, just to fuck with them).
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Re: LCRS vs LRCS vs RLCS
« Reply #7 on: September 08, 2017, 02:54:25 PM »

The "standard" that I see from touring acts:  Left, Right, Subs, FF, Delay 1, Delay 2 (or balcony, under balcony), etc.  We don't generally deploy L/R/C or L/C/R systems nor do we usually see BEs with showfile set up that way.

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My whip had Left, Right, Sub, Fill. The Fill was most often a center fill. Labeling it Fill instead of "center" seemed to be easier to communicate to Mr. Stagehand DuJour.
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Re: LCRS vs LRCS vs RLCS
« Reply #8 on: September 08, 2017, 03:02:14 PM »

Another vote for L/R/Sub/Fill.

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Re: LCRS vs LRCS vs RLCS
« Reply #9 on: September 08, 2017, 05:35:17 PM »

Another vote for L/R/Sub/Fill.

That's what I'm leaning towards...

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Re: LCRS vs LRCS vs RLCS
« Reply #10 on: September 08, 2017, 06:59:45 PM »

A LCR deployment is NOT the same as a L-R and front fill.
The LCR panning is quite different than L-R.
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Re: LCRS vs LRCS vs RLCS
« Reply #11 on: September 08, 2017, 08:16:45 PM »

A LCR deployment is NOT the same as a L-R and front fill.
The LCR panning is quite different than L-R.

I don't do any portable LCR gigs. Everything is Left and Right with mono Subwoofers, plus many times a Front Fill of some sort.

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