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Jeff Lelko

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Re: Making a plan for a lighting upgrade
« Reply #50 on: April 20, 2018, 11:34:49 pm »

Just to confuse you more...

And Elation just released a Seven Series, in case you'd like lime to go with your SixPar... 

The Maverick Storm 1 Wash interests me as well.  One of these years I'll finally find a suitable replacement for my Studio Beams that'll match their output but won't break the bank.  Legit outdoor capabilities would be nice as well given that my next investment in LED Pars will also be IP.  Any word on the Storm 1 price yet?  I'm guessing $3499. 

Mounting moving lights on a pole can be tricky.  I actually just posted a thread about mounting fixtures on poles on controlbooth...  Aside from the momentum concerns, you also have to use a mount that's rugged enough to safely support the fixture itself.  I just bought a dozen attachments that let me mount a fixture directly on top of a speaker stand or ST-132, but it won't work for a moving head.  My Elation Sniper Pros are the heaviest thing I'll put up there. 

Just a comment about your 575w power draw...  Loading 2300w onto a 20A circuit can still trip the breaker.  It may not be right away (could take an hour or two), but it can happen.  You typically don't want to load a circuit beyond 80% for a "continuous load", which I believe is defined as 3 hours or more.
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Re: Making a plan for a lighting upgrade
« Reply #51 on: April 21, 2018, 05:32:09 pm »

Thanks for the math check on the circuit loading, thatís good to know. 

I wish Elation would hurry up and publish the beam angle specs for the Seven Par 7IP already.  If itís 25 degrees or wider, thatís probably the way Iíd go.
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Re: Making a plan for a lighting upgrade
« Reply #52 on: April 21, 2018, 05:54:58 pm »

Not a problem, and as a slight disclaimer there are types of breakers that can run at full load indefinitely - usually found on some dimmer racks and other specialty applications.  I'm talking more about the upstream breaker you'll be plugging into at your local hotel/banquet center/etc. 

I agree, but I'd be surprised if it's that narrow in practice.  Even then, there are way to widen the beam a bit.  I'm more interested in what the actual price will be.  The initial numbers I'm seeing aren't encouraging when you need to buy 40 of them!
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Re: Making a plan for a lighting upgrade
« Reply #53 on: April 21, 2018, 06:11:14 pm »

Not a problem, and as a slight disclaimer there are types of breakers that can run at full load indefinitely - usually found on some dimmer racks and other specialty applications.  I'm talking more about the upstream breaker you'll be plugging into at your local hotel/banquet center/etc. 

I agree, but I'd be surprised if it's that narrow in practice.  Even then, there are way to widen the beam a bit.  I'm more interested in what the actual price will be.  The initial numbers I'm seeing aren't encouraging when you need to buy 40 of them!

B&H has a price up of $1000, my guess to the trade will be about $700.  I would love to see the colors that bad boy is going to produce.
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Re: Making a plan for a lighting upgrade
« Reply #54 on: May 29, 2018, 06:06:00 pm »

The Maverick Storm 1 Wash interests me as well.  One of these years I'll finally find a suitable replacement for my Studio Beams that'll match their output but won't break the bank.  Legit outdoor capabilities would be nice as well given that my next investment in LED Pars will also be IP.  Any word on the Storm 1 price yet?  I'm guessing $3499. 

Mounting moving lights on a pole can be tricky.  I actually just posted a thread about mounting fixtures on poles on controlbooth...  Aside from the momentum concerns, you also have to use a mount that's rugged enough to safely support the fixture itself.  I just bought a dozen attachments that let me mount a fixture directly on top of a speaker stand or ST-132, but it won't work for a moving head.  My Elation Sniper Pros are the heaviest thing I'll put up there. 
Jeff and Jeremy, Ford Sellers from Chauvet Pro has said that the prices on the new products should be available for InfoCom June 6-8.

Also Steve from Squeek lights said that their ground packages using pipe and base are limited to 10'.  Also, to be clear, that's 1.5" Sch 40 pipe and 50 # boom bases (not pipe and drape stuff).
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Re: Making a plan for a lighting upgrade
« Reply #55 on: May 29, 2018, 07:15:39 pm »

Thanks John, I guess I'll have to wait another week to see how close I am with my price guessing! 
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Re: Making a plan for a lighting upgrade
« Reply #56 on: May 29, 2018, 09:19:27 pm »

PM me for Chauvet pricing.
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Re: Making a plan for a lighting upgrade
« Reply #57 on: May 30, 2018, 04:07:21 pm »

Thanks John, looking forward to it. 

FWIW Elation told me via their social media page that their photometric specifications for the seven series would be published on their website by the end of the month.  As of this moment on the second to last day of the month, they are not.  I check daily because I'm nothing if not obsessive.

Also FWIW, Scott the price you've cited for the seven series from B&H is for the larger Seven Par 19IP (19 x 25w emitters, 500w max, 56 lbs); my interest is the smaller 7IP with 7x25w emitters, 185w max, 11lbs.

There's a local (to me) production company selling off some second-hand JB Lighting A7 wash lights for a very attractive price.  Not IP rated, but it looks like they have some excellent features for a moving zoom wash with variable colour temp control (strangely only RGB).  Tempting as a very flexible addition to a relatively small inventory, but I'm still very interested in IP65 fixtures for front wash so some of the 7IP fixtures from Elation would round out that inventory nicely with their 7-in-1 emitters and IP rating.
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