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Tony Mamoh

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Muting inputs
« on: July 18, 2017, 02:31:27 am »

The mixer in my church is located in a so called control room  200' from the choir. The choir is at the rear (yes) and in a gallery on the first floor. All the instruments/backline are in same position as the choir. I observe that sometimes, instrumentalists and or choristers plug or unplug stuff ( mics or instruments) into the snake causing horrible popping sounds to the speakers during service.

Unfortunately the mute switch is on the mixer located far away. The Soundman is helpless since he is not in the same position as the lousy musicians causing the problem. Is there a solution to mute inputs when the mixer is far away from the band? There is no way to communicate because they are far apart and not within eye communication or hand signal. Even a simple two way radio won't be useful due to the loud music during service.

Suggestions are welcome.
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Re: Muting inputs
« Reply #1 on: July 18, 2017, 02:49:35 am »

The mixer in my church is located in a so called control room  200' from the choir. The choir is at the rear (yes) and in a gallery on the first floor. All the instruments/backline are in same position as the choir. I observe that sometimes, instrumentalists and or choristers plug or unplug stuff ( mics or instruments) into the snake causing horrible popping sounds to the speakers during service.

Unfortunately the mute switch is on the mixer located far away. The Soundman is helpless since he is not in the same position as the lousy musicians causing the problem. Is there a solution to mute inputs when the mixer is far away from the band? There is no way to communicate because they are far apart and not within eye communication or hand signal. Even a simple two way radio won't be useful due to the loud music during service.

Suggestions are welcome.

What kind of mixer?
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Re: Muting inputs
« Reply #2 on: July 18, 2017, 03:46:52 am »

Will check for exact model later but it's the first generation hybrid (Analog/digital) Yamaha. Has a few leds and illuminated buttons but not the motorized faders.



What kind of mixer?
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Mike Caldwell

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Re: Muting inputs
« Reply #3 on: July 18, 2017, 07:38:36 am »

Will check for exact model later but it's the first generation hybrid (Analog/digital) Yamaha. Has a few leds and illuminated buttons but not the motorized faders.

It maybe time to upgrade to one of the many digital mixer options and control it via an iPad.

 

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Re: Muting inputs
« Reply #4 on: July 18, 2017, 08:29:35 am »

Simple.

Train the monkeys not to unplug their stuff.  If they are recalcitrant or incompetent, sell them their own "pop-proof" instrument cables to use.

http://www.rapcohorizon.com/p-50-silent-guitar-cable.aspx
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Re: Muting inputs
« Reply #5 on: July 18, 2017, 09:29:00 am »

Simple.

Train the monkeys not to unplug their stuff.  If they are recalcitrant or incompetent, sell them their own "pop-proof" instrument cables to use.

http://www.rapcohorizon.com/p-50-silent-guitar-cable.aspx

^^^^This^^^^

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Mike Caldwell

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Re: Muting inputs
« Reply #6 on: July 18, 2017, 09:50:06 am »

Simple.

Train the monkeys not to unplug their stuff.  If they are recalcitrant or incompetent, sell them their own "pop-proof" instrument cables to use.

http://www.rapcohorizon.com/p-50-silent-guitar-cable.aspx

I know monkeys can be trained, but guitar players?

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Re: Muting inputs
« Reply #7 on: July 18, 2017, 11:07:49 am »

Why on earth would singers unplug their mics during the service?
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Re: Muting inputs
« Reply #8 on: July 18, 2017, 01:28:48 pm »

Some options for XLR:

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/search?Ntt=mute+switch
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/pro-audio/radial-engineering-hotshot-dm1-microphone-signal-muting-footswitch

The above is just a quick search. I cannot vouch for the quality, purpose, or value of the above.
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Re: Muting inputs
« Reply #9 on: July 18, 2017, 02:23:38 pm »



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I observe that sometimes, instrumentalists and or choristers plug or unplug stuff ( mics or instruments) into the snake causing horrible popping sounds to the speakers during service.

In the big picture of things you have more problems than any piece of equipment can fix.
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Re: Muting inputs
« Reply #10 on: July 28, 2017, 10:06:48 pm »

The mixer in my church is located in a so called control room  200' from the choir. The choir is at the rear (yes) and in a gallery on the first floor. All the instruments/backline are in same position as the choir. I observe that sometimes, instrumentalists and or choristers plug or unplug stuff ( mics or instruments) into the snake causing horrible popping sounds to the speakers during service.

Unfortunately the mute switch is on the mixer located far away. The Soundman is helpless since he is not in the same position as the lousy musicians causing the problem. Is there a solution to mute inputs when the mixer is far away from the band? There is no way to communicate because they are far apart and not within eye communication or hand signal. Even a simple two way radio won't be useful due to the loud music during service.

Suggestions are welcome.

Since there's no reason for them to need it, hide the snake box!
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Re: Muting inputs
« Reply #11 on: July 31, 2017, 03:47:28 pm »

Since there's no reason for them to need it, hide the snake box!
... then how would the musicians connect their instruments to it....? They have to interact with an XLR *SOMEWHERE* to get the audio to the mixer.

That being said, you would think that when the musicians are plugging in to or unplugging from the snake head, they're not live. Is there not a ROS that the sound technician can consult, and therefore know, "after this point, THESE instruments are done, and will be disconnecting their equipment," and (s)he can proactively mute those channels?

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