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TJ (Tom) Cornish

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Re: Cheyenne & Portland ME 07/31/2017
« Reply #10 on: July 28, 2017, 10:18:34 pm »

My "source" is multiple FCC NPRMs, the FCC post auction data and T-Mobile for the various bits of information I'm able to disseminate and provide in a more coherent manner. I'm not quite sure what you're asking; the FCC statement you quote matches what I posted earlier. (Just note though that wireless mics will not permitted in the two 1MHz guard bands at 616-617 and 652-653.)
The quote I copied says "Spectrum will continue to be available...". I am not a lawyer, but I take that to mean those spectrum sections will continue to be available indefinitely as an end date was not mentioned.

I'm not doubting you, but as this seems to be the FCC's user-facing page for microphone users, I'm trying to understand if this is a page oversight, or if there is another FCC document that covers this that is parseable by normal people that I can forward to my clients that speaks more clearly to what you are saying.
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Re: Cheyenne & Portland ME 07/31/2017
« Reply #11 on: July 28, 2017, 10:27:24 pm »

The quote I copied says "Spectrum will continue to be available...". I am not a lawyer, but I take that to mean those spectrum sections will continue to be available indefinitely as an end date was not mentioned.

I'm not doubting you, but as this seems to be the FCC's user-facing page for microphone users, I'm trying to understand if this is a page oversight, or if there is another FCC document that covers this that is parseable by normal people that I can forward to my clients that speaks more clearly to what you are saying.

The FCC statement is correct: "Spectrum will continue to be available for wireless microphone use on the other TV channels 2-36 (TV band frequencies that fall below 608 MHz), on portions of the 600 MHz guard band (the 614-616 MHz frequencies) and the 600 MHz duplex gap (the 653-663 MHz frequencies), and in various other spectrum bands outside of the TV bands."  These are the >614MHz frequency ranges that will be available after July 2020 when the transition period ends.
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T-Mobile Nov 2017 Starts
« Reply #12 on: August 17, 2017, 02:04:36 pm »

T-Mobile testing beginning Nov 1, 2017:

August 16, 2017

Re: Notification of T-Mobile Deployment in the 600MHz Band

T-Mobile USA Inc. is planning to deploy commercial wireless services in some or all of our
owned Spectrum blocks in the attached list of counties. This is expected to begin in November
of 2017. We plan to add to this list continuously. For each county on the attached list, we ask
that all use of spectrum in the indicated channel blocks ceases prior to November 1, 2017.
For your information, the following chart illustrates how the new wireless Band 71 overlays on
the existing UHF channels 38-51. We wish to minimize interference with the wireless base
stations and handsets that will operate in the new band and we want to avoid disruptions to any
operations currently in use
.

State   County        T-Mobile Owned blocks
AL      Choctaw        BCDE
AL      Clarke        BCDE
AL      Clarke        BCDE
AL      Monroe        BCDE
AL      Pickens        BCDE
AL      Sumter        BCDE
AL      Sumter        BCDE
AR      Phillips        BCDE
AR      Phillips        BCDE
AZ      Coconino        BCDE
AZ      Coconino        BCDE
AZ      Coconino        BCDE
AZ      Navajo        BCD
AZ      Pima        BCDE
AZ      Yavapai        BCDE
CA      Del Norte        BCD
CA      Modoc        BCD
CA      Modoc        BCD
CA      Shasta        BCD
CA      Shasta        BCD
CA      Siskiyou        BCD
CA      Siskiyou        BCD
CA      Tehama        BCD
IA      Pottawattamie        BCDE
ID      Bear Lake        BCDE
ID      Caribou        BCDE
ID      Fremont        BCDE
ID      Lemhi        ABCDE
ID      Teton        BCDE
IL      Adams        BCD
IL      Adams        BCD
IL      Bond        CDE
IL      Brown        BCD
IL      Clay        BCDE
IL      Clinton        CDE
IL      Effingham        BCDE
IL      Fayette        BCDE
IL      Fulton        BCD
IL      Jefferson        BCDE
IL      Jefferson        BCDE
IL      Jersey        BCDE
IL      Madison        BCDE
IL      Marion        CDE
IL      Marion        CDE
IL      Montgomery        BCD
IL      Morgan        BCD
IL      Pike        BCD
IL      Pike        BCD
IL      Sangamon        BCD
IL      Schuyler        BCD
IL      Washington        BCDE
KS      Allen        BCDE
KS      Barber        BCDE
KS      Barton        BCDE
KS      Butler        BCDE
KS      Chase        BCDE
KS      Chase        BCDE
KS      Chautauqua        BCDE
KS      Cherokee        BCDE
KS      Clark        BCD
KS      Clark        BCD
KS      Clark        BCD
KS      Clay        BCDE
KS      Clay        BCDE
KS      Cloud        BCD
KS      Coffey        BCDE
KS      Coffey        BCDE
KS      Comanche        BCDE
KS      Cowley        BCDE
KS      Crawford        BCDE
KS      Decatur        BCD
KS      Dickinson        BCDE
KS      Dickinson        BCDE
KS      Edwards        BCDE
KS      Elk        BCDE
KS      Ellis        BCDE
KS      Ellsworth        BCDE
KS      Finney        BCD
KS      Finney        BCD
KS      Ford        BCD
KS      Geary        BCDE
KS      Graham        BCD
KS      Grant        BCD
KS      Gray        BCD
KS      Gray        BCD
KS      Greeley        BCD
KS      Greeley        BCD
KS      Greenwood        BCDE
KS      Hamilton        BCD
KS      Hamilton        BCD
KS      Hamilton        BCD
KS      Harper        BCDE
KS      Harvey        BCDE
KS      Haskell        BCD
KS      Hodgeman        BCD
KS      Jewell        BCD
KS      Kearny        BCD
KS      Kingman        BCDE
KS      Kiowa        BCDE
KS      Labette        BCDE
KS      Lane        BCD
KS      Lane        BCD
KS      Lincoln        BCD
KS      Lyon        BCDE
KS      Lyon        BCDE
KS      Marion        BCDE
KS      Marshall        BCDE
KS      McPherson        BCDE
KS      Meade        BCD
KS      Meade        BCD
KS      Mitchell        BCD
KS      Montgomery        BCDE
KS      Morris        BCDE
KS      Morton        BCD
KS      Morton        BCD
KS      Nemaha        BCDE
KS      Neosho        BCDE
KS      Ness        BCDE
KS      Norton        BCD
KS      Osborne        BCD
KS      Phillips        BCD
KS      Pottawatomie        BCDE
KS      Pottawatomie        BCDE
KS      Pratt        BCDE
KS      Rawlins        BCD
KS      Reno        BCDE
KS      Republic        BCD
KS      Rice        BCDE
KS      Riley        BCDE
KS      Riley        BCDE
KS      Rooks        BCD
KS      Rush        BCDE
KS      Russell        BCDE
KS      Saline        BCDE
KS      Scott        BCD
KS      Sedgwick        BCDE
KS      Seward        BCD
KS      Seward        BCD
KS      Smith        BCD
KS      Stafford        BCDE
KS      Stanton        BCD
KS      Stevens        BCD
KS      Stevens        BCD
KS      Sumner        BCDE
KS      Trego        BCDE
KS      Wabaunsee        BCDE
KS      Wabaunsee        BCDE
KS      Washington        BCDE
KS      Wichita        BCD
KS      Wichita        BCD
KS      Wilson        BCDE
KS      Woodson        BCDE
ME      Androscoggin        BCDE
ME      Aroostook        CDE
ME      Cumberland        BCDE
ME      Cumberland        BCDE
ME      Franklin        BCDE
ME      Hancock        CDE
ME      Kennebec        CDE
ME      Knox        BCDE
ME      Penobscot        CDE
ME      Penobscot        CDE
ME      Sagadahoc        BCDE
ME      Somerset        CDE
ME      York        BCDE
MI      Alger        DEFG
MI      Baraga        BCDE
MI      Delta        DEFG
MI      Gogebic        BCDE
MI      Houghton        BCDE
MI      Iron        BCDE
MI      Keweenaw        BCDE
MI      Marquette        BCDE
MI      Ontonagon        BCDE
MI      Schoolcraft        DEFG
MO      Audrain        BCD
MO      Barry        BCDE
MO      Barton        BCDE
MO      Boone        BCDE
MO      Butler        BCDE
MO      Callaway        BCDE
MO      Camden        BCDE
MO      Cole        BCDE
MO      Cooper        BCDE
MO      Crawford        BCDE
MO      Dallas        BCDE
MO      Dent        BCDE
MO      Gasconade        BCDE
MO      Greene        BCDE
MO      Hickory        BCDE
MO      Howell        BCDE
MO      Jasper        BCDE
MO      Laclede        BCDE
MO      Laclede        BCDE
MO      Lewis        BCD
MO      Lewis        BCD
MO      Lincoln        BCDE
MO      Madison        BCDE
MO      Maries        BCDE
MO      Marion        BCD
MO      Miller        BCDE
MO      Moniteau        BCDE
MO      Monroe        BCD
MO      Montgomery        BCDE
MO      Morgan        BCDE
MO      New Madrid        BCDE
MO      Newton        BCDE
MO      Oregon        BCDE
MO      Osage        BCDE
MO      Ozark        BCDE
MO      Phelps        BCDE
MO      Pike        BCDE
MO      Pike        BCDE
MO      Polk        BCDE
MO      Pulaski        BCDE
MO      Ralls        BCD
MO      Randolph        BCD
MO      Shelby        BCD
MO      Stoddard        BCDE
MO      Stone        BCDE
MO      Taney        BCDE
MO      Taney        BCDE
MO      Texas        BCDE
MO      Texas        BCDE
MO      Webster        BCDE
MO      Wright        BCDE
MS      Alcorn        BCDE
MS      Alcorn        BCDE
MS      Kemper        BCDE
MS      Lauderdale        BCDE
MS      Quitman        BCDE
MS      Tishomingo        BCDE
MS      Tishomingo        BCDE
MS      Tunica        BCDE
MS      Yalobusha        BCDE
NC      Beaufort        BCDE
NC      Beaufort        BCDE
NC      Carteret        BCDE
NC      Carteret        BCDE
NC      Columbus        BCDE
NC      Craven        BCDE
NC      Dare        BCDE
NC      Dare        BCDE
NC      Forsyth        BCDE
NC      Forsyth        BCDE
NC      Guilford        BCDE
NC      Hyde        BCDE
NC      Jones        BCDE
NC      Martin        BCDE
NC      New Hanover        BCDE
NC      Onslow        BCDE
NC      Pamlico        BCDE
NC      Pender        BCDE
NC      Pender        BCDE
NC      Randolph        BCDE
NC      Stokes        BCDE
NC      Stokes        BCDE
NC      Tyrrell        BCDE
NC      Washington        BCDE
ND      Billings        BCDE
ND      Billings        BCDE
ND      Burke        BCDE
ND      Divide        BCDE
ND      Divide        BCDE
ND      Dunn        BCDE
ND      Dunn        BCDE
ND      McKenzie        BCDE
ND      McKenzie        BCDE
ND      McLean        BCDE
ND      McLean        BCDE
ND      Mercer        BCDE
ND      Mountrail        BCDE
ND      Mountrail        BCDE
ND      Sioux        BCDE
ND      Ward        BCDE
ND      Ward        BCDE
ND      Williams        BCDE
ND      Williams        BCDE
NE      Cass        BCDE
NE      Douglas        BCDE
NE      Lancaster        BCDE
NE      Otoe        BCD
NE      Sarpy        BCDE
NE      Sioux        BCDEF
NE      Thayer        BCD
NM      Chaves        BCDE
NM      Chaves        BCDE
NM      Eddy        BCDE
NM      Eddy        BCDE
NM      Eddy        BCDE
NM      Guadalupe        BCDE
NM      Lea        BCDE
NM      Lea        BCDE
NM      Lea        BCDE
NM      Lea        BCDE
NM      Los Alamos        BCDE
NM      Mora        BCDE
NM      Rio Arriba        BCDE
NM      Rio Arriba        BCDE
NM      Rio Arriba        BCDE
NM      San Miguel        BCDE
NM      San Miguel        BCDE
NM      San Miguel        BCDE
NM      Santa Fe        BCDE
NM      Taos        BCDE
NM      Taos        BCDE
NY      Clinton        BCDE
NY      Clinton        BCDE
NY      Essex        BCDE
OK      Alfalfa        BCDE
OK      Alfalfa        BCDE
OK      Atoka        BCD
OK      Beaver        BCD
OK      Beaver        BCD
OK      Beckham        BCDE
OK      Caddo        BCDE
OK      Cimarron        BCD
OK      Coal        BCD
OK      Comanche        BCD
OK      Cotton        BCD
OK      Craig        BCDE
OK      Custer        BCDE
OK      Dewey        BCDE
OK      Dewey        BCDE
OK      Ellis        BCDE
OK      Ellis        BCDE
OK      Grant        BCDE
OK      Grant        BCDE
OK      Greer        BCDE
OK      Harper        BCDE
OK      Harper        BCDE
OK      Hughes        BCD
OK      Jackson        BCDE
OK      Kay        BCDE
OK      Kay        BCDE
OK      Kiowa        BCDE
OK      Major        BCDE
OK      Ottawa        BCDE
OK      Pittsburg        BCDE
OK      Pittsburg        BCDE
OK      Pontotoc        BCD
OK      Pontotoc        BCD
OK      Roger Mills        BCDE
OK      Roger Mills        BCDE
OK      Stephens        BCD
OK      Texas        BCD
OK      Texas        BCD
OK      Washita        BCDE
OK      Woods        BCDE
OK      Woodward        BCDE
OK      Woodward        BCDE
OR      Baker        BCDE
OR      Baker        BCDE
OR      Baker        BCDE
OR      Coos        BCD
OR      Coos        BCD
OR      Curry        BCD
OR      Douglas        BCD
OR      Douglas        BCD
OR      Douglas        BCD
OR      Gilliam        BCDE
OR      Jackson        BCD
OR      Klamath        BCD
OR      Klamath        BCD
OR      Lane        BCD
OR      Lane        BCD
OR      Morrow        BCDE
OR      Morrow        BCDE
OR      Umatilla        BCDE
OR      Umatilla        BCDE
OR      Union        BCDE
OR      Wallowa        BCDE
OR      Wallowa        BCDE
OR      Wallowa        BCDE
SC      Dillon        BCDE
SC      Florence        BCDE
SC      Horry        BCDE
SC      Marion        BCDE
SD      Brown        BCDE
SD      Brown        BCDE
SD      Campbell        BCDE
SD      Corson        BCDE
SD      Dewey        BCDE
SD      Dewey        BCDE
SD      Edmunds        BCDE
SD      Faulk        BCDE
SD      Marshall        BCDE
SD      McPherson        BCDE
SD      McPherson        BCDE
SD      Meade        BCDE
SD      Potter        BCDE
SD      Spink        BCDE
SD      Walworth        BCDE
SD      Ziebach        BCDE
TX      Andrews        BCDE
TX      Brewster        BCDE
TX      Coke        BCDE
TX      Concho        BCDE
TX      Concho        BCDE
TX      Crane        BCDE
TX      Crockett        BCDE
TX      Dawson        BCDE
TX      Ector        BCDE
TX      Edwards        BCDE
TX      Gaines        BCDE
TX      Glasscock        BCDE
TX      Howard        BCDE
TX      Irion        BCDE
TX      Jeff Davis        BCDE
TX      Kimble        BCDE
TX      Kimble        BCDE
TX      Kinney        BCDE
TX      Martin        BCDE
TX      Mason        BCDE
TX      McCulloch        BCDE
TX      McCulloch        BCDE
TX      Menard        BCDE
TX      Pecos        BCDE
TX      Presidio        BCDE
TX      Reeves        BCDE
TX      Runnels        BCDE
TX      Runnels        BCDE
TX      Schleicher        BCDE
TX      Sterling        BCDE
TX      Sterling        BCDE
TX      Sutton        BCDE
TX      Sutton        BCDE
TX      Terrell        BCDE
TX      Tom Green        BCDE
TX      Tom Green        BCDE
TX      Upton        BCDE
TX      Val Verde        BCDE
TX      Ward        BCDE
TX      Ward        BCDE
TX      Winkler        BCDE
UT      Kane        BCD
UT      Rich        BCDE
UT      San Juan        BCD
VA      Amherst        BCDE
VA      Appomattox        BCDE
VA      Bedford        BCDE
VA      Bedford City        BCDE
VA      Botetourt        BCDE
VA      Botetourt        BCDE
VA      Campbell        BCDE
VA      Franklin        BCDE
VA      Franklin        BCDE
VA      Lynchburg City        BCDE
VA      Lynchburg City        BCDE
VA      Montgomery        BCDE
VA      Montgomery        BCDE
VA      Pulaski        BCDE
VA      Radford City        BCDE
VA      Roanoke        BCDE
VA      Roanoke        BCDE
VA      Roanoke City        BCDE
VA      Roanoke City        BCDE
VA      Salem City        BCDE
VT      Chittenden        BCDE
VT      Chittenden        BCDE
VT      Franklin        BCDE
VT      Franklin        BCDE
VT      Rutland        BCDE
WA      Adams        BCDE
WA      Adams        BCDE
WA      Benton        BCDE
WA      Chelan        BCDE
WA      Chelan        BCDE
WA      Chelan        BCDE
WA      Douglas        BCDE
WA      Franklin        BCDE
WA      Grant        BCDE
WA      Grant        BCDE
WA      Kittitas        BCDE
WA      Kittitas        BCDE
WA      Okanogan        BCDE
WA      Okanogan        BCDE
WA      Yakima        BCDE
WI      Ashland        BCDE
WI      Ashland        BCDE
WI      Bayfield        BCDE
WI      Bayfield        BCDE
WI      Clark        BCDE
WI      Clark        BCDE
WI      Florence        BCDE
WI      Forest        BCDE
WI      Iron        BCDE
WI      Langlade        BCDE
WI      Lincoln        BCDE
WI      Marathon        BCDE
WI      Marinette        BCDE
WI      Oneida        BCDE
WI      Price        BCDE
WI      Richland        BCDE
WI      Sauk        BCDE
WI      Shawano        BCDE
WI      Taylor        BCDE
WI      Vilas        BCDE
WI      Wood        BCDE
WV      Preston        BCDE
WV      Preston        BCDE
WY      Albany        BCDE
WY      Albany        BCDE
WY      Albany        BCDE
WY      Campbell        BCDE
WY      Campbell        BCDE
WY      Campbell        BCDE
WY      Carbon        BCDE
WY      Carbon        BCDE
WY      Converse        BCDE
WY      Crook        BCDE
WY      Crook        BCDE
WY      Fremont        BCDE
WY      Fremont        BCDE
WY      Goshen        BCDEF
WY      Goshen        BCDEF
WY      Hot Springs        BCDE
WY      Laramie        BCDE
WY      Laramie        BCDE
WY      Lincoln        BCDE
WY      Lincoln        BCDE
WY      Lincoln        BCDE
WY      Natrona        BCDE
WY      Natrona        BCDE
WY      Niobrara        BCDE
WY      Niobrara        BCDE
WY      Platte        BCDE
WY      Sublette        BCDE
WY      Sublette        BCDE
WY      Sweetwater        BCDE
WY      Sweetwater        BCDE
WY      Teton        BCDE
WY      Teton        BCDE
WY      Washakie        BCDE
WY      Washakie        BCDE
WY      Weston        BCDE

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Re: T-Mobile Nov 2017 Starts
« Reply #13 on: August 17, 2017, 08:15:53 pm »

Here is the cover letter which came with the county list of startup for 2017

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Re: Cheyenne & Portland ME 07/31/2017
« Reply #14 on: August 24, 2017, 03:26:09 pm »

T-Mobile will be energizing various counties throughout the continental US (all of the areas in the last T-Mobile email) before the end of this year.  Once they begin testing, wireless operators must cease operation of any device in the affected spectrum. Radio Active Designs is in communications with T-Mobile Spectrum engineers and will be posting test sites on our web site along with the specific counties throughout the US. 

Following is a map that our friends at Professional Wireless Systems have put together that provides details on the counties across the United States that T-Mobile plans on lighting up November 1.
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Re: Cheyenne & Portland ME 07/31/2017
« Reply #15 on: October 12, 2017, 01:18:29 pm »

In September I went to Portland, ME to see the second ever announced 600MHz T-Mobile tower for myself and to take some scans. I've attached a screen shot showing their operation.

T-Mobile won Blocks BCDE, but as you can see from the frequency markers in the picture they are only transmitting C and D. I can only speculate that that is to decrease interference to the lower and upper adjacent DTV channels until they complete their transition.

To note, these carriers are clean. There was some speculation early on that Guardbands and Duplex Gaps may have been too noisy to operate wireless mics. I am optimistic that the Guard Band and Duplex Gaps will be useable as the skirts of these carriers are small. Front end saturation may very well still be a problem depending on your location, but OOBE should not cause interference. These are different signals than we are used to with DTV. They are 5MHz per block rather than 6MHz, there is no pilot tone and they will be operated in many more locations than DTV towers, to be certain. Lots to reconsider as these systems begin transmitting, I hope this helps some of you.
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