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Bob Charest

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Recording From Midas M32C - Front Panel USB
« on: March 20, 2017, 04:55:00 pm »

Hi all,

I would like to record just L/R to MP3 from our IEM M32C. I know I can record WAV to the front panel USB and could use the rear panel USB for multi-track recording.

I want a reference recording of the band just to review which tunes were played, what order, how long breaks were... that kind of thing. I currently split the L/R output from my IEM mix and send it to a Marantz PMD661 configured to record as MP3. I would love to not have to take the recorder to every gig.

The WAV recording would be OK except that, given the FAT32 format and the Midas M32C Manual stated filesize limitations, I can only count on having up to 3 hours of continuous recording, and our gigs are almost always 4 hours long.

If anyone has any ideas for me, I would love to hear about them!

Best regards,
Bob Charest
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Jean-Pierre Coetzee

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Re: Recording From Midas M32C - L/R to MP3
« Reply #1 on: March 20, 2017, 05:04:53 pm »

As far as I know it automatically splits the files at 4GB, if not then maybe we should have a chat with midas about fixing that in a software update since it should. I doubt you will have any issues with recording straight to the memory stick even for a 4 hour show.
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Re: Recording From Midas M32C - Front Panel USB
« Reply #2 on: March 20, 2017, 05:29:32 pm »

As far as I know it automatically splits the files at 4GB, if not then maybe we should have a chat with midas about fixing that in a software update since it should. I doubt you will have any issues with recording straight to the memory stick even for a 4 hour show.
Thanks, Jean Pierre. Looks like a test is in order for me.


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Re: Recording From Midas M32C - L/R to MP3
« Reply #3 on: March 20, 2017, 05:37:59 pm »

I use Reaper to do my multi-track and it breaks up the tracks at around 1Gb on my pitiful outdated laptop that only has 2Gb RAM.  It does this seamlessly.
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« Reply #4 on: March 20, 2017, 05:43:11 pm »

I seem to remember our M32 working just fine for one event we ran and I recorded something like 6 hours straight, it split happily from what I remember and this was before I updated firmware(just installed into the venue).

Testing it is a good idea though.
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Re: Recording From Midas M32C - Front Panel USB
« Reply #5 on: March 21, 2017, 06:02:06 am »

I seem to remember our M32 working just fine for one event we ran and I recorded something like 6 hours straight, it split happily from what I remember and this was before I updated firmware(just installed into the venue).

Testing it is a good idea though.
Hi Jean Pierre,

I just checked after a 10-hour test, and there is only one file created, file size of 2 Gb. Total recording time was 3 hours 17 minutes. The firmware is 3.04. I don't see anything about recording in the 3.07 release notes.

Thanks,
Bob Charest
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Re: Recording From Midas M32C - Front Panel USB
« Reply #6 on: March 21, 2017, 06:04:36 am »

I use Reaper to do my multi-track and it breaks up the tracks at around 1Gb on my pitiful outdated laptop that only has 2Gb RAM.  It does this seamlessly.
Hi Scott,

As my test with a USB stick showed that only one 2Gb file is created, I may have to check going this route. I would prefer not to, as my goal is to make things simpler, but, I may need to do it.

Thanks,
Bob Charest
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« Reply #7 on: March 21, 2017, 08:33:18 am »

Will test it out tonight on out M32 for you as well just to ensure its not a firmware thing... Seems weird to me that Midas wouldn't have sorted that. Also quite strange that it was a 2gb file since fat is a 32bit base so should allow up to 4gb...

Is your flash drive maybe formatted to fat-16?
That would make even less sense so ignore that...
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Re: Recording From Midas M32C - Front Panel USB
« Reply #8 on: March 21, 2017, 09:26:33 am »

Will test it out tonight on out M32 for you as well just to ensure its not a firmware thing... Seems weird to me that Midas wouldn't have sorted that. Also quite strange that it was a 2gb file since fat is a 32bit base so should allow up to 4gb...

Is your flash drive maybe formatted to fat-16?
That would make even less sense so ignore that...
Hi Jean Pierre,

Yes, I agree that this seems as though it should operate differently. The Stick was definitely formatted as FAT32, but the Midas M32C filesize (2Gb) indicates that the M32C 3.04 firmware is treating the files as though the stick was formatted using FAT16 as you mentioned. A shame too, as, if the filesize were to be able to reach 4Gb, I'd be all set!

I did send a tech support request to CARE detailing what I'm trying to do.

Best regards,
Bob
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« Reply #9 on: March 21, 2017, 10:56:30 am »

Hi Jean Pierre,

Yes, I agree that this seems as though it should operate differently. The Stick was definitely formatted as FAT32, but the Midas M32C filesize (2Gb) indicates that the M32C 3.04 firmware is treating the files as though the stick was formatted using FAT16 as you mentioned. A shame too, as, if the filesize were to be able to reach 4Gb, I'd be all set!

I did send a tech support request to CARE detailing what I'm trying to do.

Best regards,
Bob

If it was formatted FAT16 it would cap out in the MB range... Seems that maybe they want to split at 2 GB but it crapped out when wanting to start the second file which would make sense.

Am going through to the venue now so should be able to let you know maybe later tonight but for sure tomorrow morning.

What sample rate are you using on the console?
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