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Mike Sullivan

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Controlling easy-to-set-up Chauvet bar band lighting rig
« on: March 17, 2017, 11:54:27 pm »

I have plans to purchase some fast setup lights for bar shows, mostly because most systems are a hassle.  I'm probably going to get Chauvet's 4BAR Tri Flex with a couple SlimPar Pro W's for the front, a pair of Gigbar 2's for the rear with possibly a set of Initimidator Spot Duo 155's on the poles underneath for rear wash/effects.  This is going to be your garden variety bar rig (16-20ft x 12-16ft stages, dark rooms, etc, not intended for national acts, outdoors, or any of that ( I have access to other lights for those types of events )... nice thing is all of the Chauvet products are wireless capable with the D-Fi system, so I can use a D-Fi transmitter or controller.

The goal of the system is fast set up and tear down, wireless control, and simple to control.  All the lights have automatic programs or sound active programs that can be used, but I'd like a way to control it externally and maybe program basic scenes that I can hand off to someone to push buttons with.  Computer control with ShowXPress would be nice but I'm trying to keep it simple.  I was looking at the Obey 40 D-Fi which is the most likely bet, as it has room for 12 fixtures and up to 192 channels, which would be more than plenty.  Any other recommendations?
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Re: Controlling easy-to-set-up Chauvet bar band lighting rig
« Reply #1 on: March 18, 2017, 12:03:07 am »

I have plans to purchase some fast setup lights for bar shows, mostly because most systems are a hassle.  I'm probably going to get Chauvet's 4BAR Tri Flex with a couple SlimPar Pro W's for the front, a pair of Gigbar 2's for the rear with possibly a set of Initimidator Spot Duo 155's on the poles underneath for rear wash/effects.  This is going to be your garden variety bar rig (16-20ft x 12-16ft stages, dark rooms, etc, not intended for national acts, outdoors, or any of that ( I have access to other lights for those types of events )... nice thing is all of the Chauvet products are wireless capable with the D-Fi system, so I can use a D-Fi transmitter or controller.

The goal of the system is fast set up and tear down, wireless control, and simple to control.  All the lights have automatic programs or sound active programs that can be used, but I'd like a way to control it externally and maybe program basic scenes that I can hand off to someone to push buttons with.  Computer control with ShowXPress would be nice but I'm trying to keep it simple.  I was looking at the Obey 40 D-Fi which is the most likely bet, as it has room for 12 fixtures and up to 192 channels, which would be more than plenty.  Any other recommendations?


Sorry, won't work.   You can't simplify the process.  There are many threads on this.


The problem is you want to control many fixture types.  The board doesn't support that it sends 16 channels of DMX per fixture.  Each fixture assigns it's channels arbitrarily so without any intelligence in the middle to translate the operation of each fixture into a common language (color, brightness, focus, zoom, prism rotate, gogo select etc.) that you can then programmatically control you  are forced to abstract the raw DMX setting for each step by moving fiddly low resolution faders while you visually assess the outcome.


You will also be losing fixture capability as you will have to address the 4-bar as a single fixture.


If you can't get by with a high end fixed system like a Blizzard Weather system then you have to take the plunge to computer control. 





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Re: Controlling easy-to-set-up Chauvet bar band lighting rig
« Reply #2 on: March 20, 2017, 01:50:19 pm »

The setup you have seems to sound just right for your application, but what I think Scott was trying to say is that using the obey 40 to control your lights may not be as easy as using a console that will be able to show you what attributes you will be controlling when you move your faders, I.e. You will end up having to try and memorize what channel does what and at what DMX value. This isn't all that ideal any longer since our industry has come a long way, we have cheap, more advanced ways of simple lighting controls. I would suggest moving over to a computer and dmx dongle to control your lights- with that at least you don't have to play a memory game with the fixture's attributes all the time. ENTTEC makes some great  USB-DMX converters that are compatible with a plethora of freeware type lighting control software that you can play around with and see what you like. TL;DR it's probably for the best to move away from the obey 40 to a more "smart" lighting controller (in which case a PC and dongle)
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Re: Controlling easy-to-set-up Chauvet bar band lighting rig
« Reply #3 on: March 20, 2017, 09:11:50 pm »

Computer control with ShowXPress would be nice but I'm trying to keep it simple...Any other recommendations?

ENTTEC makes some great  USB-DMX converters that are compatible with a plethora of freeware type lighting control software that you can play around with and see what you like...

If going this route and you have time to shop, I'd almost say wait to see how the Chauvet acquisition of ChamSys plays out.  I'm sure that nothing will happen quickly but this could be a bit of a game changer, particularly if considering ShowXpress or MagicQ PC.  Glad to see that Phil is staying on though! (link)
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Re: Controlling easy-to-set-up Chauvet bar band lighting rig
« Reply #4 on: March 21, 2017, 01:36:29 pm »

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