Hello,I'm looking for some speaker recommendations for our small chapel (29ft deep/54ft wide/9ft ceilings). The Youth Group is about to start using it for some lively contemporary worship which would include piano, drums (somehow muted I hope), bass, guitar, few praise singers. I'm going to pickup a QU-16 for the mixer as I already have some extra IO gear for it.There are doors in each of the front corners, so the speakers would need to be at least 7 feet to the center. With the room being so wide, I was thinking something visual pleasing like the JBL CBT 50LA-1, but the closer I looked, they might not be powerful enough for live music. That left me with the 70J-1. In the 2-way scope I was also checking out the QSC K8's because of their wider coverage. I'm having a hard time finding how much speaker I need for the room. Balancing the shallow depth with possibility of loud drums. I would imagine we will end up with some acoustic treatment on the back wall as well.Any help on the speakers type/placement is greatly appreciated, sorry all I could find tonight was an old realty photo. I'll take more tomorrow night.
Wide rooms can be difficult to cover with just a couple of speakers.In your case-LONG before you even start to look at speakers, you need to answer the following questions.1: Where is the band going to setup? The stage looks to small for a band. That will help determine possible speaker placements.2: Where are the structures in the ceiling that can hold the weight of speakers? You could be limited to those positions.3: What is your budget for speakers-amps-processing? Without that, any suggestion that is out of the budget is worthless.4: Are you looking to cover the entire room? or just the middle section?You MUST define your goal-BEFORE you start to look for solutions.Just like buying a car-there are certain limitations/parameters you look for. Unless all you want is a "red" car and don't care about if any other aspect meets your needs.How many people does it need to carry?, Does acceleration matter? What about gas mileage? Do you need to haul things in it? Budget?
2. The first pew is at 11ft from the speaker wall. I was thinking the speakers will need to be on the wall, however there is plenty of evenly spaced beams above to hold anything we would need for this room.3. Money isn't a big factor here, I'm planning to spend up to about $3k on speakers, subs, amps, processing. Again, not a hard budget limit.
$3k budget doesn't jive with what you're expecting the system to do. Who is going to design the system, ensure it covers well, install it, tune it? Do you want it to look good, or some black boxes on tripods? I just talked with a church last night that did the "couple cheap speakers" approach rather than a coherent system a few times - they now are tired of wasting money and need to do it right. The first thing you need is to involve a good church AV integrator. Then set a realistic budget based on meeting with them, possibly a demo or two.
See above for the real solution.Turning loose one of todays "praise bands" in a room that small will be brutal...as you probably suspect.
Turning loose one of todays "praise bands" in a room that small will be brutal...as you probably suspect.
One persons "joyful noise" is another persons "infernal racket".I prefer the "still, small voice".
First thing to keep in mind is that this room, by its shape and choice of surfaces, is acoustically compromised for worship. It looks like it would make a great classroom, not so much a worship space.
Young folks can be pretty energetic (understatement of the year, there) and keeping volume levels low will take some strong discipline. The principles behind Mike Sokol's "semi-silent stage" will be important for keeping stage volume under control and, therefore, a clean mix and good coverage.
I'll agree with this much. Beyond that, all the well-meant and technically correct advice is still contradicted by the fact that the room is too small to be using amplification. I stand by my previous suggestion of using acoustic music.Intensity of feeling, emotional impact and an enveloping sense of one-ness is not "volume dependent". Let the celebrants sing their hearts out and put the requisite amount of physical effort into it and it'll be fine. There's little or no need to use amplification in such a confined space. It will cause a host of problems, both technical and otherwise and distract from the worship and communion.
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