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Sam Higuera

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Small/medium wood array cabinets
« on: January 22, 2017, 07:25:42 pm »

I have 2x18JBL custom subwoofers (2000watts each). Also lab grupen amplification, and im looking to buying new/second hand small/medium format passive array cabinets for live audio rock gigs.

Can anyone suggest any models to look for that you guys think sounds great to set a sound equipment with my subwoofers???
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Re: Small/medium wood array cabinets
« Reply #1 on: January 22, 2017, 08:00:07 pm »

I have 2x18JBL custom subwoofers (2000watts each). Also lab grupen amplification, and im looking to buying new/second hand small/medium format passive array cabinets for live audio rock gigs.

Can anyone suggest any models to look for that you guys think sounds great to set a sound equipment with my subwoofers???
You said "array cabinets".  I assume you mean that you want to use more than 1 per side?  or something else?

Exactly what do you mean by that?

Are you looking for something that actually arrays without interference-or just something that has "array" in the name?

It can mean different things to different people.

How many subs do you have?  What sort of size areas are you looking to cover?

What sort of budget do you have?

You said "lab Gruppen amplification"..  That could mean many different things.  How much power-how many channels do you have for the mains.

Details will HELP A LOT in getting useful answers.

Without the details, you can get all kinds of responses that give you suggestions for gear that does not apply to your needs.

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Re: Small/medium wood array cabinets
« Reply #2 on: January 22, 2017, 08:07:30 pm »

I have 2x18JBL custom subwoofers (2000watts each). Also lab grupen amplification, and im looking to buying new/second hand small/medium format passive array cabinets for live audio rock gigs.

Can anyone suggest any models to look for that you guys think sounds great to set a sound equipment with my subwoofers???


"live audio rock gigs" is also an extremely generic requirement.  You need to tell us how many of these subwoofer cabinets you have, post any measurements you have taken of their performance (vitally important for matching tops) and exactly what type of gigs you want to support.


Requirements should include hard data:


1 - SPL requirement with bandwidth and distance from source qualifiers
2 - Size of rooms
3 - Occupants of rooms
4 - Stage level wash to be contended with
5 - Materials used in construction of room
6 - Style (seated, open room, dance area, mosh pit etc.)
7 - Available mains power
8 - Logistic requirements
9 - Deployment (ground stack, flown, flown from venue flypoints, lifts)





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Re: Small/medium wood array cabinets
« Reply #3 on: January 23, 2017, 05:27:06 am »

Hello, thank you for all your suggestions. Im gonna try to show all the info you ask me for.

I have 2 subs 2x18 jbl custom, loaded with void v18-1000.
http://www.jblpro.com/pub/bto/CSR82L.pdf

We put up a 5-8 rock concerts a year at an open air venue for like 200-500 people. People stand up not seated.
I have a lab G. fp6000q power amp just for the new equipment. Subs has their own power amp.
The cabinets most of the times  wont go flown, they will be stacked at both sides of stage. provably on top of their flightcase.


Our budget could be something between 5.000-8.000 /$.
We do prefer to buy second hand.

Well, i tried to detail most of the info of what we have.

Ive seen lots of db tech dva T4 or T8 second hand at good prices, but would prefer wood cabinets in stead.

Any suggestions about it???










"live audio rock gigs" is also an extremely generic requirement.  You need to tell us how many of these subwoofer cabinets you have, post any measurements you have taken of their performance (vitally important for matching tops) and exactly what type of gigs you want to support.


Requirements should include hard data:


1 - SPL requirement with bandwidth and distance from source qualifiers
2 - Size of rooms
3 - Occupants of rooms
4 - Stage level wash to be contended with
5 - Materials used in construction of room
6 - Style (seated, open room, dance area, mosh pit etc.)
7 - Available mains power
8 - Logistic requirements
9 - Deployment (ground stack, flown, flown from venue flypoints, lifts)
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Re: Small/medium wood array cabinets
« Reply #4 on: January 23, 2017, 06:22:08 am »

Both the DVA T4 and T8 are powered.
The better 'tops' are usually bi-amped. Does the crossover you are using for subs have additional outputs ? For rock punch look at the Martin H3
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Re: Small/medium wood array cabinets
« Reply #5 on: January 23, 2017, 06:32:34 am »

Im looking for buying a new croosover, i though on new  driverack pa, which could afford bi amp tops and out for subs.

Mike i wasnt looking for the Martin H3 kind of cabinets, i was thinking of some array stile cabinets, like Jbl VRX or others.

Any suggestions about it???

Thank you


Both the DVA T4 and T8 are powered.
The better 'tops' are usually bi-amped. Does the crossover you are using for subs have additional outputs ? For rock punch look at the Martin H3
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Re: Small/medium wood array cabinets
« Reply #6 on: January 23, 2017, 07:30:51 am »


Mike i wasnt looking for the Martin H3 kind of cabinets, i was thinking of some array stile cabinets, like Jbl VRX or others.


Are you talking about line array cabinets?

Why do you want a line array?

WHat have you used in the past?

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Re: Small/medium wood array cabinets
« Reply #7 on: January 23, 2017, 08:04:52 am »

Turbosound TMS4


Are you talking about line array cabinets?

Why do you want a line array?

WHat have you used in the past?
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Re: Small/medium wood array cabinets
« Reply #8 on: January 23, 2017, 12:29:24 pm »

Turbosound TMS4
I will ask again,, What are you looking for in an "array cabinet"?

Or what problem do you look to solve?
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Re: Small/medium wood array cabinets
« Reply #9 on: January 23, 2017, 12:37:40 pm »


Ivan we had an old and heavy Turbosound TSM 4 and we look forward getting a new equipment.
We are keeping the JBL Subs, and we though of getting some small format cabinets we could stack and add to our JBL subs. Multiple speakers in a small format cabinet for a portable sound to do rock gigs sound.

I know theres a lot of parameters to check before advising a sound system set up, but we just wanted to hear some suggestions on wood cabinet brands to start checking it out.

The problem i want to solve is that our Turbosound cabinets are quite old and we wanted to replacethem for some modern equipment.




I will ask again,, What are you looking for in an "array cabinet"?

Or what problem do you look to solve?
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