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Joseph D. Macry

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Never store gear in Breaker Room
« on: January 17, 2017, 04:22:09 PM »

An electrical closet was ajar at the hotel I'm staying in. Stuck my head inside and took this.
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Re: Never store gear in Breaker Room
« Reply #1 on: January 17, 2017, 05:18:43 PM »

An electrical closet was ajar at the hotel I'm staying in. Stuck my head inside and took this.
A call to the local fire marshal would get that fixed very quickly.
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Re: Never store gear in Breaker Room
« Reply #2 on: January 17, 2017, 10:51:38 PM »

I've encountered this at just about every high school I've done installs.

There'll be sports gears piled up shoulder high in front of the panels, on top of transformers, leaning against disconnects.

In one football stadium equipment room, it took me 5 minutes to move things out of the way and get to the panel.

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Re: Never store gear in Breaker Room
« Reply #3 on: January 18, 2017, 03:25:15 AM »

Where I work everyone gets taught not to put things near electrical panels when we do our fire safety training, seems some companies/institutions want a fire.
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Re: Never store gear in Breaker Room
« Reply #4 on: January 18, 2017, 06:06:41 AM »

Whilst it's not good practice, nothing should be getting anywhere near hot enough to start a fire.


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Re: Never store gear in Breaker Room
« Reply #5 on: January 18, 2017, 06:42:00 AM »

Whilst it's not good practice, nothing should be getting anywhere near hot enough to start a fire.


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The US fire code considers electrical systems access to be essential. It's not only that a fault in the electrical panel could ignite all this ready fuel, but if there's a fire somewhere else, the delay in the ability to turn power off while you dig through the pile of junk could be the difference between life and death.
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Re: Never store gear in Breaker Room
« Reply #6 on: January 18, 2017, 08:38:37 AM »

Whilst it's not good practice, nothing should be getting anywhere near hot enough to start a fire.


Steve.

Code requires a 3ft minimum clearance for access.    That's in front or to the sides of any panel, switchgear or transformer.
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Re: Never store gear in Breaker Room
« Reply #7 on: January 18, 2017, 09:14:15 AM »

I'm not suggesting it's acceptable, just that if you have the temperature to start a fire, you have much bigger problems going on.


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Re: Never store gear in Breaker Room
« Reply #8 on: January 18, 2017, 09:38:55 AM »

I'm not suggesting it's acceptable, just that if you have the temperature to start a fire, you have much bigger problems going on.


Steve.

I think the idea was both access and to not provide additional fuel for a fire.

Americans are famous for cutting corners, particularly when there's no individual or institutional memory of Bad Things Happening.  I'm sure there are venue managers who still put locks and chains on exit doors to prevent unticketed persons from entering, not considering the consequences because they've never been involved in a fire, nor has the venue had an emergency egress problem anyone can recall. 
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Re: Never store gear in Breaker Room
« Reply #9 on: January 18, 2017, 11:05:08 AM »

I'm sure there are venue managers who still put locks and chains on exit doors to prevent unticketed persons from entering

It used to be common practice here to use the legs of a metal frame chair wedged between the door and the emergency exit push bar to prevent people getting in.




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