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Rick Earl

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Monoprice line-array
« on: January 09, 2017, 09:53:38 pm »

http://www.monoprice.com/product?c_id=115&cp_id=11505&cs_id=1150501&p_id=604926&seq=1&format=2

I expected in-expensive self powered plastic boxes from them, maybe even a combo sub and speaker on a stick for a DJ.  This seems like a big product jump for them, which makes me think they supply more AV installers than it appears on the surface.
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Re: Monoprice line-array
« Reply #1 on: January 09, 2017, 10:07:11 pm »


From their website

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A properly deployed system is comprised of 652 tops and a 12 sub configured in a ratio of 4 to 1. This is optimal for most music presentation and House of Worship applications. Additional bass for high energy rock shows and electronic music can be achieved with more subwoofers ground stacked.

652 tops seems a bit overkill  :o and with their 4-1 sub ratio you need 163 subs, but of course additional bass for "high energy" shows and electronic music can be achieved with more ground stacked subs!
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Re: Monoprice line-array
« Reply #2 on: January 09, 2017, 10:24:45 pm »

From their website

652 tops seems a bit overkill  :o and with their 4-1 sub ratio you need 163 subs, but of course additional bass for "high energy" shows and electronic music can be achieved with more ground stacked subs!

Although that statement  by them is  poorly worded, the model name / number of the top box is a MiniRay 652 and the sub is a MiniRay 12.
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Re: Monoprice line-array
« Reply #3 on: January 10, 2017, 02:25:32 am »

Although that statement  by them is  poorly worded, the model name / number of the top box is a MiniRay 652 and the sub is a MiniRay 12.

I guess my humor fell flat
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Re: Monoprice line-array
« Reply #4 on: January 10, 2017, 12:46:34 pm »

I guess my humor fell flat
Pretty "sharp" here Craig...
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Re: Monoprice line-array
« Reply #5 on: January 11, 2017, 09:31:42 am »

I guess my humor fell flat

My bad, I was tired and just reading, I get it now.
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Re: Monoprice line-array
« Reply #6 on: January 11, 2017, 10:01:07 am »

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Small to medium size venues will benefit from is small footprint...

In other words, "because everybody wants a line array."

Line arrays are probably NOT the best solution for "small to medium size venues." My understanding is that line arrays are intended for venues where you are trying to balance SPL (coverage) between those seats near the stage and those hundreds of feet away. In other words, huge venues like stadiums, amphitheaters, and arenas.

Put a line array in your typical bar and you'll be bouncing most of your sound off the back wall. Yeah, that'll sound good.  ::)
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Re: Monoprice line-array
« Reply #7 on: January 11, 2017, 12:29:18 pm »

I worked out the numbers some 10 years ago but there's actually a mid sized venue region where the improved HF output of the straight section of a small line makes up for air loss at the back of a coverage area.  Lows couple and behave like a single source.  Only as Ivan would be quick to point out, the mids still blur from non-coupled multiple sources.
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Re: Monoprice line-array
« Reply #8 on: January 11, 2017, 12:43:04 pm »

From the website:

In other words, "because everybody wants a line array."

Line arrays are probably NOT the best solution for "small to medium size venues." My understanding is that line arrays are intended for venues where you are trying to balance SPL (coverage) between those seats near the stage and those hundreds of feet away. In other words, huge venues like stadiums, amphitheaters, and arenas.

Put a line array in your typical bar and you'll be bouncing most of your sound off the back wall. Yeah, that'll sound good.  ::)

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Re: Monoprice line-array
« Reply #9 on: January 11, 2017, 01:05:30 pm »

I worked out the numbers some 10 years ago but there's actually a mid sized venue region where the improved HF output of the straight section of a small line makes up for air loss at the back of a coverage area.  Lows couple and behave like a single source.  Only as Ivan would be quick to point out, the mids still blur from non-coupled multiple sources.
But as soon as the wind blows a little bit it all starts to fall apart.

It is one thing to "assume" that the devices all couple together.

Often REALITY is that they don't behave that way.

Each cabinet is radiating its own wavefront and they interfere with each other.  So the "addition" is not as much as some "simple math" would suggest.

In order for the HFs to "behave" they MUST be designed to work together to provide a SINGLE wavefront, NOT individual sources.  This means that each one in the "array" must be different.  But the top and bottom halves of the array can be a mirror image of each other.
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