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Helge A Bentsen

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UPS for a Digico SD8
« on: July 31, 2016, 05:45:03 PM »

I had some issues at a festival this weekend, lost power several times due to rain+an inexperienced lightjockey leaving cables out in the rain/on the ground etc.

I'm looking into buying a on-line UPS for my SD8 so I can save/power it down safely.

How do you go about calculating UPS size?
I guess it has to be based on current draw and running time. Ideally, I would like to put it into my stage rack (have 2U left over) and run my stage rack, console and waves-server from it. Power for the surface/waves server is bundled in the multi core.

What are you guys using for this?
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Re: UPS for a Digico SD8
« Reply #1 on: July 31, 2016, 09:27:35 PM »

Helge,

Regardless of which manufacturer you use APC has a pretty good selection of UPS types, great support, and a long history of quality products. Go the the links below and you can not only choose the type but also calculate the size for your specific needs.

The first link will calculate by load and by time dependent on input voltage, rack mount, etc.. Once computed the app will show you a number of recommended UPS that meet your requirements. You can also buy direct from APC on line and the pricing is pretty good.

http://www.apc.com/us/en/tools/ups_selector/server/load

http://www.apc.com/us/en/#

http://www.apc.com/us/en/tools/ups_selector/index.cfm
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Re: UPS for a Digico SD8
« Reply #2 on: August 01, 2016, 09:25:30 AM »

Helge,

Regardless of which manufacturer you use APC has a pretty good selection of UPS types, great support, and a long history of quality products. Go the the links below and you can not only choose the type but also calculate the size for your specific needs.

The first link will calculate by load and by time dependent on input voltage, rack mount, etc.. Once computed the app will show you a number of recommended UPS that meet your requirements. You can also buy direct from APC on line and the pricing is pretty good.

http://www.apc.com/us/en/tools/ups_selector/server/load

http://www.apc.com/us/en/#

http://www.apc.com/us/en/tools/ups_selector/index.cfm

Thanks for the info :)

One idea struck me, how about using one of these in the doghouse connected to one of the PSUs? Should give enough time to save and shut down according to APCs own calculator.

https://www.amazon.com/APC-700VA-Power-saving-Back-UPS/dp/B00DN2PJAI/ref=sr_1_fkmr1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1470057758&sr=8-1-fkmr1&keywords=APC+Back-UPS+ES+8+700VA

I'ts an off-line UPS but theoretically it's fast enough to switch over before the desk goes down.
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Re: UPS for a Digico SD8
« Reply #3 on: August 01, 2016, 04:36:33 PM »

I wouldn't trust my desk to one of those. Just there to give you a few moments top shut down. Go for a 1-2U rackmount and be happy.
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Re: UPS for a Digico SD8
« Reply #4 on: August 02, 2016, 02:20:55 AM »

I found one that looks nice. Light, enough run-time and affordable.

http://www.powerwalker.com/index.php?lang=en&page=product&item=10120195

That would fit straight into my stagerack with room to spare.


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Re: UPS for a Digico SD8
« Reply #5 on: August 02, 2016, 08:50:48 AM »

I found one that looks nice. Light, enough run-time and affordable.

http://www.powerwalker.com/index.php?lang=en&page=product&item=10120195

That would fit straight into my stagerack with room to spare.


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Re: UPS for a Digico SD8
« Reply #6 on: August 02, 2016, 10:23:35 AM »

Thanks for the info :)

One idea struck me, how about using one of these in the doghouse connected to one of the PSUs? Should give enough time to save and shut down according to APCs own calculator.

https://www.amazon.com/APC-700VA-Power-saving-Back-UPS/dp/B00DN2PJAI/ref=sr_1_fkmr1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1470057758&sr=8-1-fkmr1&keywords=APC+Back-UPS+ES+8+700VA

I'ts an off-line UPS but theoretically it's fast enough to switch over before the desk goes down.

When using a console with 2 power supplies in it I always hook only one up to the UPS and the other direct. That way if for some reason the UPS should fail you have a backup. Also keep in mind that a good UPS is heavy (easily 25lbs) so the more heavy stuff you put in a rack the heavier the rack gets. Some times that isn’t a problem and sometimes it is.
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Re: UPS for a Digico SD8
« Reply #7 on: August 03, 2016, 04:30:55 AM »

For my SD8 i use the predecessor of this one since 2012:
http://www.apc.com/shop/de/de/products/APC-Smart-ups-750-VA-LCD-RM-2-U-230-V/P-SMT750RMI2U
We bought the 2U unit because they are less deep than their 1U siblings and we have one of two psus connected. No Problems
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Re: UPS for a Digico SD8
« Reply #8 on: August 03, 2016, 09:18:42 PM »

When using a console with 2 power supplies in it I always hook only one up to the UPS and the other direct. That way if for some reason the UPS should fail you have a backup. Also keep in mind that a good UPS is heavy (easily 25lbs) so the more heavy stuff you put in a rack the heavier the rack gets. Some times that isn’t a problem and sometimes it is.

This considered best practice unless of course you have a separate UPS for each power supply.

Helge,

Be very careful when buying a no name UPS. Better to do it right once.
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Re: UPS for a Digico SD8
« Reply #9 on: August 04, 2016, 12:47:31 AM »

There are two ways additional to UPS to make a DiGiCo SD Console safer to power issues:

1. set the internal recovery to 'on' and choose a reasonable time for 'auto update'. This is done automatically on other consoles but for shows with a a lot of scenes under certain circumstances this is not a good idea. So DiGiCo decided to make this customers choice.

2. Allways run the console connected to a remote labtop running the Windows Editor. If you are in 'remote' mode and 'mirrored' and if you have a good battery in the labtop you allways can have a second way of recovery by one click on 'mirror to' on the labtop after rebooting the console without any other loading or reconnecting procedure different to other consoles.
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