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[Ray Aberle]

What brands do you know better?

The Behringer Eurolive are popular here, but i don't know if any of them are enough.

Also, i could get the ZLX or ELX line from Electro Voice. Actually, The EV ELX 115p looks pretty nice.

Do you have any thoughts on them?

Well, Ivan knows Danley really really well, but you'll notice in his sig that he works for them-- and as such, he can answer questions asked about specific Danley items, but he's not able to steer you towards them before the things you're asking about.

-Ray

[Pablo Sanfilippo]

Well, Ivan knows Danley really really well, but you'll notice in his sig that he works for them-- and as such, he can answer questions asked about specific Danley items, but he's not able to steer you towards them before the things you're asking about.

-Ray

Unafortunately, no Danley in Argentina. Zero.

[Ivan Beaver]

Well, Ivan knows Danley really really well, but you'll notice in his sig that he works for them-- and as such, he can answer questions asked about specific Danley items, but he's not able to steer you towards them before the things you're asking about.

-Ray

And it is out of his budget.

[Pablo Sanfilippo]

And it is out of his budget.

I'm sorry, but i'd like to get this question answered. Would it be easier/cheaper/better-sound-quality to place the stage in the shorter wall?

[Ray Aberle]

And it is out of his budget.

Yeah, I know... he had just asked what BRANDS do you know better-- and clearly, you know Danley well.

[Ray Aberle]

I'm sorry, but i'd like to get this question answered. Would it be easier/cheaper/better-sound-quality to place the stage in the shorter wall?

Jonathan addressed this on the 19th; to wit:

Maybe, maybe not. I doubt it would be much cheaper, as you likely would need about the same amount of equipment. However, it's generally easier to get good quality sound, as a single center cluster over the stage will cover the entire width of the room. But you may find that you need to install an additional cluster halfway toward the back, with appropriate delay and processing. In this case, the front and middle clusters overlap coverage somewhat, but it's OK because the middle cluster is delayed so the sound arrives at the listeners' ears at the same time. Issues with comb filtering are minimized.

I hope that made sense, it was kind of rambling.

That delay cluster may eat up the budget... =-\

-Ray

[Pablo Sanfilippo]

Jonathan addressed this on the 19th; to wit:
That delay cluster may eat up the budget... =-\

-Ray

Oh, i haven't seen that answer, thanks.

[Stephen Swaffer]

What I find curious is that it appears you have a rather elaborate ceiling  lighting design, but sound and acoustics appears to be an after thought.  Your floor plan is almost a twin to our church auditorium, and our auditorium is covered very nicely by a well designed single center cluster-but they are mounted about 10 feet/3 m higher than your ceiling.

Not saying ours is better-the auditorium was built in the 1860's so working well with a sound system was not a consideration.  In my limited experience, a higher ceiling is usually easier to work with-but there are others on here that are better qualified in acoustics then I.  Just making the point that room design/acoustics can be just as important as picking the right gear and leaving that to chance on a new auditorium is not wise.

[Pablo Sanfilippo]

What I find curious is that it appears you have a rather elaborate ceiling  lighting design, but sound and acoustics appears to be an after thought.  Your floor plan is almost a twin to our church auditorium, and our auditorium is covered very nicely by a well designed single center cluster-but they are mounted about 10 feet/3 m higher than your ceiling.

Not saying ours is better-the auditorium was built in the 1860's so working well with a sound system was not a consideration.  In my limited experience, a higher ceiling is usually easier to work with-but there are others on here that are better qualified in acoustics then I.  Just making the point that room design/acoustics can be just as important as picking the right gear and leaving that to chance on a new auditorium is not wise.

Tle ceiling and lightining is nothing close to definition. I will say i did that ceiling design "just for fun". I mean, it is highly subject to changes. As i said before, i know that acoustics is really important, but sadly we don't have the budget to get professional help. That's because i'm trying to learn everything i can and asking for your help, so we can spend the only money we have on gear.

So, do you have any suggest in what kind of acoustic treatment is better for this room?

[Irvin Pribadi]

Pablo,
The new sanctuary you have is similar is size and shape to the one my church is currently constructing to be done next month. My layout is long and I'm running a single cluster hung at 5m high with a 6m high ceiling.

I agree with everything others have said on this thread.
My inputs:
1. Keep the layout wide: your 4m ceiling is quite short and if doing a long layout getting sound evenly over 10m away will need a delay system = more expensive.
2. To reduce cost, I'd suggest a two cluster mono system. Three cluster is better but will be more expensive. Two 90 degree horizontal dispersion speakers will do.
3. Mount speakers as high as possible to get better even coverage.

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