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Russell Bantin

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Re: Church Audio Setup
« Reply #40 on: August 23, 2014, 01:38:51 PM »

By where the slanted wood wall meets the white are you talking about just to the left of the flag?

Here's a picture of the speakers
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Re: Church Audio Setup
« Reply #41 on: August 23, 2014, 03:26:25 PM »

OT as far as helping this upgrade, but IF  only we could get builders to think ahead just a tennie tiny bit and put an extra conduit or 3 in the slab from the back of the building to the front in this type of construction!

Just curious-as Dick mentioned-iPad mixing would add lots of of options.  Does anyone know, can you use any of the WiFi mixing apps on a Mac desktop?  That would be a very attractive solution for this-all gear up front-desktop in back to mix and do live stream-that could be a very neat, tidy and secure setup with no need to worry about all those irresistible knobs getting "adjusted" .
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Re: Church Audio Setup
« Reply #42 on: August 24, 2014, 09:51:46 PM »

And now that I see the pics of the room, I'd say the columns could be moved to an effective location with the advantage of being low-profile visually.  Otherwise, I'd be looking for newer column type speakers very carefully chosen for pattern control.

The most likely mounting points would be where the slanted wooden wall meets the flat plaster wall.  Either small columns or a couple of 8" speakers with 75 or 90 degree patterns, probably the narrower of the two.

More later...

When you say are you talking about A or B position?
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Re: Church Audio Setup
« Reply #43 on: August 25, 2014, 12:22:52 AM »

It is hard to tell from that picture but, the pulpit looks to be a good bit in front of those walls is that the case?
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Re: Church Audio Setup
« Reply #44 on: August 25, 2014, 06:54:53 AM »

Position "A" is correct, but there are other, better, more costly solutions.  It depends on being there in person to get to know the room and the nature of the service.

In the pics you posted, is the dim pic #5 some kind of pendant ceiling speaker up by the ceiling fan?
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Russell Bantin

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Re: Church Audio Setup
« Reply #45 on: August 25, 2014, 09:49:36 AM »

It is hard to tell from that picture but, the pulpit looks to be a good bit in front of those walls is that the case?

Wall is about equal with the mic..
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Re: Church Audio Setup
« Reply #46 on: August 25, 2014, 09:50:50 AM »

Position "A" is correct, but there are other, better, more costly solutions.  It depends on being there in person to get to know the room and the nature of the service.

In the pics you posted, is the dim pic #5 some kind of pendant ceiling speaker up by the ceiling fan?
Yes it is a speaker next to the ceiling fan.
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Re: Church Audio Setup
« Reply #47 on: August 25, 2014, 01:29:35 PM »

Yes it is a speaker next to the ceiling fan.

Russell..

Can you find out the make and model of that speaker?  Also if it is driven by a "regular" amp or a transformr-tapped constant voltage system.

What is the height above the floor and what are the distances to the walls, front, sides and rear?

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Re: Church Audio Setup
« Reply #48 on: August 25, 2014, 02:48:56 PM »

Can you find out the make and model of that speaker? 

I was thinking it was something like if not exactly this:

http://www.soundsphere.com/products/model-q-8-loudspeaker/

With an unintentional Leslie style diffusion attachment.  And probably not adding much to intelligibility of the system.
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Re: Church Audio Setup
« Reply #49 on: August 25, 2014, 03:59:05 PM »

A few thoughts in addition to what everyone else has posted:
  • Be thankful that your "sound booth" is actually in the sanctuary, and in a location where you can get to it without causing disruption. There are far too many churches where the "P.A. system" is in a completely separate room, in an enclosed booth with a window, or the absolute worst possible place, in the pulpit itself. (Yes, I've seen it.)
  • Being placed in a corner is a far better location than any of the above options, but it's not the BEST place. When you're against a wall, there will be a volume boost, most noticeably in the bass frequencies. In a corner, the effect is even more pronounced. So you'll have to mentally adjust for that difference when mixing. Placing acoustically absorbent material on the wall behind/beside the booth can help, but you don't want to overdo it, because you can end up with the reverse effect. Ideally, the sound booth is among the congregation, slightly off-center and about 2/3 of the way back through the room, but construction may limit how close you can get to ideal. In this position, you'll hear what the majority of the congregation hears, making your mixing job easier.
  • Setting a budget before you understand what you need to achieve your goals is foolish. You must first identify the performance problems with your current system, your desired performance, and the program material you will be presenting. Once you know that, then you can determine hardware-wise what equipment must be discarded or replaced, what can be repurposed, and what additions are needed. Only then you will be able to build a budget. And here's the wonderful thing: once people know HOW the money will be used (a solid plan), they will be much more willing to open their wallets and pledge the money. Buying audio system isn't like buying a used car; you can't just say "I have this much money to spend" and hope to find something that works. No two well-functioning audio systems are alike, because no two rooms are alike. They must be designed for the room and congregation they serve.
  • Unless you always have the same person using each particular microphone every single service, there is no such thing as a "set it and forget it" system. Any changes in the program (i.e., different preacher; different person making announcements) will require someone to go and spin the dials.
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