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I'd chose the L'Acoustics Kiva/Kilo

7 (22.6%)

I'd chose the D&B Audiotechnik T-Series

9 (29%)

Both systems are equally great within their spectrum.

8 (25.8%)

Neither one, there are similar but better systems available.

3 (9.7%)

No idea... I am lost... But I'd like to find out.

4 (12.9%)

Total Members Voted: 31

Voting closed: August 16, 2014, 10:12:35 AM

[Christopher Irwin]

D&B Audiotechnik
T Series = Ups: Compact, Flexible, Point Source | Downs: Not as Powerful
Q Series = Ups: Flexible, Point Source | Downs: Complicated
V Series = Ups: Powerful | Downs: More Complicated, Less Flexible
E Series = Ups: Very Flexible | Downs: Not as Powerful, Only Near-field

I just added my vote for the D&B system.  The T10's are very versatile which is extremely nice when dealing with smaller/mid-sized events.  The university I work for owns (22) T10's and (4) B2's and we love the system.  We use the T10's in point source mode quite often for fills or very small events.  We also use clusters of (3) T10's on speaker stands a fair amount for the 100-400 person events and in locations where it is difficult and/or costly to fly an array.

I have installed E12's and E8's in multiple buildings on campus and love them as well, however, the T10's have more HF response than the E series, so if used together there needs to be some eq to match the sound (simple to do with the D&B amps).

I'm personally not as big a fan of the Q series, though they still sound great.  I haven't used the V series, but I tried out a Vsub and was extremely impressed, especially with the cardiod pattern and how much quieter it was behind the sub.  I would probably buy VSubs over the B2's, so definitely give that some consideration if you go the D&B route.

[Matt Vivlamore]

What else does your shop carry?  For PA & Amps.

I would lean toward the manufacture that I've been buying into for the other gear. 

[roberto petruzzelli]

I just added my vote for the D&B system.  The T10's are very versatile which is extremely nice when dealing with smaller/mid-sized events.  The university I work for owns (22) T10's and (4) B2's and we love the system.  We use the T10's in point source mode quite often for fills or very small events.  We also use clusters of (3) T10's on speaker stands a fair amount for the 100-400 person events and in locations where it is difficult and/or costly to fly an array.

I have installed E12's and E8's in multiple buildings on campus and love them as well, however, the T10's have more HF response than the E series, so if used together there needs to be some eq to match the sound (simple to do with the D&B amps).

I'm personally not as big a fan of the Q series, though they still sound great.  I haven't used the V series, but I tried out a Vsub and was extremely impressed, especially with the cardiod pattern and how much quieter it was behind the sub.  I would probably buy VSubs over the B2's, so definitely give that some consideration if you go the D&B route.

Totally agree with you. Morover consider also the weight (1 T series speaker wheigt is 11 kilos) and the hardware to mantle the system that in the case of D&B is absolutely better in any sense: quality, easy manage, materials etc)
My suggestion goes to the d20 amplifiers because with two of that, 4 sub and 8 speakers, you will have in the reality bot 2 sysstems good for rooms to 500 people (2 sub + 2 poitsource + 2 front fill (or 4 pointsource) or putting everything together a FOH able to produce the right SPL for an audience of 1.500 people (live etc)
In the other hand LAcoustic is for sure a good soution but is just a question of "taste" and not of loud in my opinion.. i mean: to amplify jazz i vote D&B as per doing conferences.. if Viceversa you do Rock or DJ probably better LA
What is really stunning in the case of D&B is the cardiod subwoofer where you will have the stage completely clean, it's really stunning, check ite befor thinking to any other solution because there is no Matin or adamson or LA or whatever with the same feature

[Steve Eudaly]

I'm a big fan of d&b's system design philosophy. Good measurements and proper use of ArrayCalc lead to consistently excellent results when using the right box for the application. I spent a bit of time with L'Acoustics Soundvision before going d&b with our company and I found ArrayCalc/R1 much easier to use.

T-series is a big long in the tooth at this point, so at the risk of adding another suggestion to your ever growing list of products to pick from, I'd really recommend checking out Y-series. You mentioned V, but that's a big jump up from T, and Y kind of fills that gap. It does not feature the dual purpose "point or line" source design, but the Y-series point source boxes like the Y10P are fantastic utility boxes for fills to supplement the line array systems or serve as mains on smaller events.

This is all regionally dependant based on who your reps are, but through the bidding and purchasing process we received much better service from d&b. We looked at half a dozen other "big boy brands" and nobody even came close. The d&b folks took time to really understand what we wanted to do with our business and designed a system that would help us accomplish our goals. That service and attention to our needs has only continued to improve now that we are owners.

As you've already seen from previous comments, there are lots of great options at this level of gear. A lot of it comes down to personal preference and regional factors, but I am quite confident you'll be very happy going d&b.

[Ray Aberle]

Totally agree with you. Morover consider also the weight...

Welcome to the forums! As you should have noticed, one of our policies for participation is that your Display Name does need to be your Real, Full Name. Would you pop into your profile and ensure that your Display Name does indeed reflect your Real, Full Name? Spaces always help make it clear...

Thanks!

Ray

(And responding to a 3-year-old thread regarding speaker choices... making a suggestion at this point is probably irrelevant as the OP has MOST LIKELY already pulled the trigger on something. The only time it's good to revive an old thread like this is when you're in the same position, i.e. "I'm looking to buy the same system-- are there other, newer options I should be looking at?")

[Steve Eudaly]

Welcome to the forums! As you should have noticed, one of our policies for participation is that your Display Name does need to be your Real, Full Name. Would you pop into your profile and ensure that your Display Name does indeed reflect your Real, Full Name? Spaces always help make it clear...

Thanks!

Ray

(And responding to a 3-year-old thread regarding speaker choices... making a suggestion at this point is probably irrelevant as the OP has MOST LIKELY already pulled the trigger on something. The only time it's good to revive an old thread like this is when you're in the same position, i.e. "I'm looking to buy the same system-- are there other, newer options I should be looking at?")

Oh man, I really need to get better at checking thread dates before I get so excited about a "new" topic coming to life.

[Ray Aberle]

Oh man, I really need to get better at checking thread dates before I get so excited about a "new" topic coming to life.

For the record, I was responding to the person who revived the thread; your post came in while I was typing mine. So my bit in parentheses wasn't aimed at you!

-Ray

[Doug Fowler]

Oh man, I really need to get better at checking thread dates before I get so excited about a "new" topic coming to life.

Better yet, don't respond to posts not complying with the name requirement.

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