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Ned Ward

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Re: The Fender amplifier wars - Everyone is welcome..
« Reply #30 on: June 30, 2014, 02:17:24 PM »

Blackframe 10, or G10A in that order. If all else fails, me.
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Thanks Bob - Always can count on you for sage advice. If I can find an old Jensen C10Q (pre 1968) either in good shape or get it reconed through Orange County Speakers, would that change your recommendation?
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Re: The Fender amplifier wars - Everyone is welcome..
« Reply #31 on: June 30, 2014, 02:30:40 PM »

No. I have some CQ10's and they don't compare, not even close.
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Re: The Fender amplifier wars - Everyone is welcome..
« Reply #32 on: June 30, 2014, 02:45:47 PM »

good to know - was seeing some vintage Jensens and CTS on ebay and thought with a recone could keep the vintage vibe. Ordering the Blackframe this week.
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Re: The Fender amplifier wars - Everyone is welcome..
« Reply #33 on: July 01, 2014, 01:40:27 AM »

Since this is an amp thread…

I have my Princeton Reverb - 77 pull boost, so I added a Deluxe Reverb output transformer and cleaned up the wiring. Sounds great at low volumes with a Jensen reissue speaker, but above 4 that speaker just farts and turns to mush.

Cab is particle board with glued in/dadoed baffle, so adding a 12 isn't practical (I also have a matching closed 1x12 cab. Looking for a better 10" speaker that will give me sweet clean, but further on up the road crunch without farting out. So far on my list:

Weber AlNiCo 10A125 - have 2 of these in my Tremolux and I do like.
Warehouse Speakers G10C/S

Upper end
Warehouse Speakers G10A
Kendrick Blackframe 10

Any other thoughts? Looking to keep the Princeton chime which is why I'm not looking at more British-voiced speakers.

thanks!

Change the output stage coupling caps from .1uf to .01uf and see if that helps.  Or change the first stage cathode bypass cap (maybe from 25uf to 2uf?). 
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Re: The Fender amplifier wars - Everyone is welcome..
« Reply #34 on: July 01, 2014, 05:29:09 AM »

Remember that this is a Princeton Reverb, not a Princeton. The Princeton should stay clean up to about 7 on the volume dial. The Princeton Reverb on the other hand has an additional gain stage due to the reverb section and should stay clean to 4-5 on the volume dial.

Ned,

Stiff bottom is the goal here, so if the speaker we discussed doesn't make as much of an improvement as you think it should you can;

Replace the PS capacitors with 40mf capacitors, change the rectifier tube to a 5AR4 (if it will fit) or solid state replacement, change the PS transformer and swap it with a Deluxe or Bandmaster transformer. Constantly measure the plate voltage and if the plate voltage starts to approach 430v then STOP. Do not go over 430v with a 6V6.
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Re: The Fender amplifier wars - Everyone is welcome..
« Reply #35 on: July 01, 2014, 10:41:07 AM »

Thanks Bob. Speaker should be here by next week. In the meantime, will get the Jensen reissue out and on eBay to get a few bucks...
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Re: The Fender amplifier wars - Everyone is welcome..
« Reply #36 on: July 04, 2014, 06:25:39 PM »

Steve received his head yesterday. I wonder if he's plugged it in yet.

Steve, If you've powered on the amp I could use a report please, good or bad.
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Re: The Fender amplifier wars - Everyone is welcome..
« Reply #37 on: July 04, 2014, 10:33:26 PM »

i have a stage 185
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Re: The Fender amplifier wars - Everyone is welcome..
« Reply #38 on: July 05, 2014, 12:00:54 PM »

Steve received his head yesterday. I wonder if he's plugged it in yet.

Steve, If you've powered on the amp I could use a report please, good or bad.

Having a crazy weekend!  Sound gig after gig after.... 
I did plug it in long enough to make sure it powers up
Have not had a chance to put it through it's paces
Will spend time with it tomorrow and Tuesday the band rehearses so I'll know the important stuff then (if it maintains headroom after heating up and being thrashed for an hour straight)

All that said, I know Bob's work.  I have no doubt what t will sound like.  Awesome.
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Re: The Fender amplifier wars - Everyone is welcome..
« Reply #39 on: July 05, 2014, 12:04:45 PM »

i have a stage 185

My deepest sympathies.
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