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Rob Gow

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Re: low balling a weekend worriors that have ruined profits
« Reply #70 on: June 06, 2014, 12:20:25 PM »

... i have a big investment and now i want to upgrade but barely make enough to keep going. my businuess has dropped by 50% since 2009 and its beacause of these jerks that give it away...

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i aggree with you. the problem is if you raise there someone else who going come in cheaper. i do this and it works.if i want a client i do the frist event at no charge i dont even discuss price till after i do the job. and 9 out of 10 times i have gotten the account.

So it's ok for you to do freebies, to take work from others, but not ok for other to do the same to you...
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Bob Leonard

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Re: low balling a weekend worriors that have ruined profits
« Reply #71 on: June 06, 2014, 04:04:56 PM »

That's called "Stepping on his own dick." Rob.
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Re: low balling a weekend worriors that have ruined profits
« Reply #72 on: June 06, 2014, 04:31:32 PM »

That's called "Stepping on his own dick." Rob.

Apparently he is also willing to call the police if a band tech is not up to some unstated standard.

The race to the bottom is apparently doing fine without me.

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Steve M Smith

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Re: low balling a weekend worriors that have ruined profits
« Reply #73 on: June 06, 2014, 06:20:22 PM »

Apparently he is also willing to call the police if a band tech is not up to some unstated standard.

How can you get the police involved with something like that?!


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Re: low balling a weekend worriors that have ruined profits
« Reply #74 on: June 06, 2014, 06:26:03 PM »

Let me think.................... You can't.
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Re: low balling a weekend worriors that have ruined profits
« Reply #75 on: June 06, 2014, 06:43:08 PM »

How can you get the police involved with something like that?!

Apparently where he's from, misuse of channel mutes justifies calling in the local authorities.  From another thread:

we once did a show with a big act and thier sound guy was an idiot half way thorough the frist song he said there no vocals coming thorough the system . when i said try taking the mutes off the vocal inputs he turned to me and said i dont know what i am talking about. at that point i had him escorted away from the board by the police.

The biggest crime I see here is the wanton slaughtering of the local language.  I sure hope his bids are better written than his posts, if he wants to get new clients.

(DISCLAIMER: I'm married to an English major, so I'm more prone to headaches from reading mangled syntax than most people)
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Re: low balling a weekend worriors that have ruined profits
« Reply #76 on: June 06, 2014, 06:43:24 PM »

Let me think.................... You can't.

That's what I thought.  They are usually only interested in actual crimes!

(and doughnuts).


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Re: low balling a weekend worriors that have ruined profits
« Reply #77 on: June 06, 2014, 06:46:18 PM »

The biggest crime I see here is the wanton slaughtering of the local language.  I sure hope his bids are better written than his posts, if he wants to get new clients.

(DISCLAIMER: I'm married to an English major, so I'm more prone to headaches from reading mangled syntax than most people)

As I'm English, it's my duty to be appalled at American spelling and general mangling of our language!!


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Re: low balling a weekend worriors that have ruined profits
« Reply #78 on: June 06, 2014, 07:11:31 PM »

As I'm English, it's my duty to be appalled at American spelling and general mangling of our language!!

I'm pretty sure "frist" is an incorrect spelling on both sides of the pond!  And I should probably clarify, I'm married to an "English major" (her university studies), NOT an "English Major" (an officer in the British military).
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Re: low balling a weekend worriors that have ruined profits
« Reply #79 on: June 06, 2014, 08:21:30 PM »

I've read the thread from the beginning and I'll try and keep my reply on point.

Perhaps some of the weekend warriors are not truly bottom feeders.

Perhaps they smply have bought into the market at a lower price point than you and at a slightly lower level than you.

Perhaps that behringer X32 system routs audio input towards the outputs as effectivly as your M7CL does but his buy in was under 5k, where yours was 25k 6 years back

Perhaps his qsc kw rig is adequate enough for the jobs he underbid you on where your older KF750 system went the last many years, and the sight lines are better and he didnt need a full distro,saving the venue/promoter an electrician call nor did it and eat up 16 sq ft sidestage for racks....

Perhaps his new lights from Blizzard adequatly light the stage and the stands he bought from hercules or ADJ are safe enough and rig faster than the long cans and super towers you bring with you.

Perhaps pulling the stuff around in that dinky trailer behind his personal truck allows him to charge less than you and your 5 ton truck

Perhaps the weekend warrior is satisfied with $30-40 an hour clear after lower expenses for a 1 man job than you are having to pay help to do these marginal jobs.


perhaps perhaps perhaps

Just a few thought I had when reading the first few pages of this.
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Looking at retiring. Local PA market has shrank to 2 guys with guitars and bose l1 compacts or expecting full line array and 16 movers on stage for $300... no middle left going back to event DJ stuff, half the work for twice the pay.

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Re: low balling a weekend worriors that have ruined profits
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