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Samuel Rees

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Re: Does this exist?
« Reply #10 on: May 08, 2014, 11:34:11 am »

The spec on what is being talked about here is the JBLs reported 97 db, to the EVs 102. That's a fairly substantial difference.
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Re: Does this exist?
« Reply #11 on: May 08, 2014, 12:14:19 pm »

The spec on what is being talked about here is the JBLs reported 97 db, to the EVs 102. That's a fairly substantial difference.

So do we believe specs or personal experience?
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Re: Does this exist?
« Reply #12 on: May 08, 2014, 01:59:07 pm »

Fulcrum DX12xx is another dual 12" 2 way that sounds great, price isn't much more.

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Re: Does this exist?
« Reply #13 on: May 08, 2014, 02:34:54 pm »

Fulcrum DX12xx is another dual 12" 2 way that sounds great, price isn't much more.

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Until you factor in the cost of an "required" amp or DSP.  Last time, I check the DSP amps where; Lab Gruppen PLM, PowerSoft and Crown Itech-HD and for a simple stand alone DSP there was XTA, Lake, & Bi-Amp.

I went FA22ac and the cost is on par with 4x VRX932LAP.  But a 2x QRx212/SRX722 & XTi-2 is half the price.
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Samuel Rees

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Does this exist?
« Reply #14 on: May 08, 2014, 03:20:30 pm »

Why compare Fulcrum with powersoft, with SRX with XTI? SRX or STX with the real iTech HD is pretty expensive as well. I think that comparison underlines why your new fulcrums are such a good deal Matt!
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« Reply #15 on: May 08, 2014, 03:38:28 pm »

Uh... no.  The magnet material is not indicative of either the voltage necessary to move the cone nor the current required to keep it moving.

The rest... decent sounding box, yes.

I thought I read somewhere that Neo took twice the power to achieve the same volume. Maybe it was a bad dream. Why did the SRX literature state that it required three times the power as the QRX?
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« Reply #16 on: May 08, 2014, 03:44:05 pm »

I thought I read somewhere that Neo took twice the power to achieve the same volume. Maybe it was a bad dream. Why did the SRX literature state that it required three times the power as the QRX?

SRX700's came out when big wattage speaker was the only way to go and made an easier sell. Well it still an issue today for the Noobs, but use veterans are looking for the most effective speakers. 

What I've noticed with the SRX gear, you don't need a ton a power to make a good amount of volume.  They just take the higher wattage abuse better.  I'm saying this while I power them with the Itechs, but the limiters are set at RMS value.
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« Reply #17 on: May 08, 2014, 03:50:54 pm »

SRX700's came out when big wattage speaker was the only way to go and made an easier sell. Well it still an issue today for the Noobs, but use veterans are looking for the most effective speakers. 

What I've noticed with the SRX gear, you don't need a ton a power to make a good amount of volume.  They just take the higher wattage abuse better.  I'm saying this while I power them with the Itechs, but the limiters are set at RMS value.

Thanks Matt. I never owned the JBL. I think the power requirements actually scared me off.. I had the 212's and put them on a PL236, one a side and had plenty of headroom for what I was doing at the time
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Re: Does this exist?
« Reply #18 on: May 08, 2014, 05:53:35 pm »

Maybe when guys say "it takes a lot of power to light up the JBLs...." they're talking about sparks and flames, I dunno.  Brother Matt is right again, though, about the JBLs taking some serious thermal abuse and living to see the next gig.

I suggest folks get to know their speakers by finding the -3dB point of power compression and then contemplate the implications.
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« Reply #19 on: May 08, 2014, 08:19:19 pm »

Specifically a 2x12 + horn that isn't huge, heavy and stupid expensive?

Tannoy VX12.2Q, or the powered VXP12.2Q.

http://www.tannoypro.com/#Page=Product&Id=121.402

http://www.tannoypro.com/#Page=Product&Id=122.410
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