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Thomas Le

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Rebadged Mixers
« on: April 30, 2014, 09:48:34 PM »

First was the Mackie VLZ-1642 http://www.mackie.com/products/1642vlz3/index.html

Then came the Behringer XENYX QX2442USB http://www.behringer.com/EN/Products/QX2442USB.aspx

Now comes the Galaxy Audio AXS-18RM http://www.galaxyaudio.com/AXS18RM.php

Well gee, they don't have to make it that obvious right? ::)
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Jamin Lynch

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Re: Rebadged Mixers
« Reply #1 on: April 30, 2014, 09:53:24 PM »

First was the Mackie VLZ-1642 http://www.mackie.com/products/1642vlz3/index.html

Then came the Behringer XENYX QX2442USB http://www.behringer.com/EN/Products/QX2442USB.aspx

Now comes the Galaxy Audio AXS-18RM http://www.galaxyaudio.com/AXS18RM.php

Well gee, they don't have to make it that obvious right? ::)

Same old crap, just a different look.
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Re: Rebadged Mixers
« Reply #2 on: April 30, 2014, 09:54:45 PM »

back when mackie sued behringer (and lost) for copying their mixers, the rumor was that the chinese cloned some circuit boards so closely the chinese clones said mackie on them.
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David Sturzenbecher

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Re: Rebadged Mixers
« Reply #3 on: April 30, 2014, 10:02:09 PM »

back when mackie sued behringer (and lost) for copying their mixers, the rumor was that the chinese cloned some circuit boards so closely the chinese clones said mackie on them.

I have heard this rumor only the product was compressors and the company was Drawmer.
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Re: Rebadged Mixers
« Reply #4 on: April 30, 2014, 10:16:49 PM »

back when mackie sued behringer (and lost) for copying their mixers...
They didn't totally lose - they did succeed in having the big MX8000 Mackie 8-Bus clone outlawed (only to reappear with a meter bridge as the MX9000).  I had experiences guesting on both in the '90s... loved the LEDs with a mind of their own (every one not already on would flash with the kick), and the channels with the random functionality feature.
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Re: Rebadged Mixers
« Reply #5 on: May 01, 2014, 05:27:27 AM »

Well, the Galaxy Audio & Behringer look very similar, but as for the Mackie...

* The Behringer has a whole digital FX section, the Mackie doesn't.
* The Behinger has a USB interface, the Mackie doesn't.
* The Mackie has the Aux section above EQ in the channel strip, the Behringer has it the other (conventional) way round.
* The Behringer has channel comps, the Mackie doesn't.
* The Mackie has a -20db activity LED, the Behringer doesn't.
* The Mackie most bizarrely uses the peak LED to indicate Mute as well - that would really bug me!
* The Behringer allows solo of all 4 Aux sends, the Mackie allows if for only Aux 1 & 2
* The Mackie has a level control for the Tape-in, the Behringer doesn't.

So, other than the fact that they're both budget 16:4:2 compact mixers with 8 mic pres, and have a pretty de-facto layaout for that genre, they're pretty comprehensive set of differentiating features there (and I'm sure there are quite a few more if you dig a little deeper)
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Re: Rebadged Mixers
« Reply #6 on: May 01, 2014, 08:56:46 AM »

There are more than 3 16x4x2 mixers that will share similar feature sets and general configuration. There are other, better examples of a lack of originality. Customers in the market for a 16x4x2 will have certain expectations for where the controls end up, so I wouldn't expect much variance. 

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Re: Rebadged Mixers
« Reply #7 on: May 01, 2014, 11:26:17 AM »

There are more than 3 16x4x2 mixers that will share similar feature sets and general configuration. There are other, better examples of a lack of originality. Customers in the market for a 16x4x2 will have certain expectations for where the controls end up, so I wouldn't expect much variance.

Completely, and I still maintain that Mackie are fairly bold in putting auxes above EQ - that'd fox me every time - which is a move I'd hope others wouldn't copy.

And that's before that shared mute/peak light - words fail me!
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Re: Rebadged Mixers
« Reply #8 on: May 01, 2014, 12:12:31 PM »

Completely, and I still maintain that Mackie are fairly bold in putting auxes above EQ - that'd fox me every time - which is a move I'd hope others wouldn't copy.

And that's before that shared mute/peak light - words fail me!
the first mackie 1604 had inserts that were post fader. That was a lot of fun! Plus if you muted a channel it re-routed it to busses 3+4. My favorite mixer of all time was my midas venice, but it had horrible colors. My least fave mixer of all time was the A&H GL2200. The aux/eq knobs didn't line up with the faders. it was real easy to get to tweaking on the wrong channel.
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