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Michael A. Yates

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Streaming Music?
« on: April 06, 2014, 11:08:47 AM »

I had an event last night that required me to play random hit/chart music all night long. I did not have a lot of downloaded music available being that I'm not a DJ so I used Pandora on shuffle. It did the job however even with the paid version I was getting an occasional commercial.

My question is anyone now of any better streaming radio sites that are better then pandora and has no interruptions to use at events such as this?




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Re: Streaming Music?
« Reply #1 on: April 06, 2014, 11:19:29 AM »

I had an event last night that required me to play random hit/chart music all night long. I did not have a lot of downloaded music available being that I'm not a DJ so I used Pandora on shuffle. It did the job however even with the paid version I was getting an occasional commercial.

My question is anyone now of any better streaming radio sites that are better then pandora and has no interruptions to use at events such as this?




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Spotify. .pay for the $10. A month or whatever it is. You can select Individual songs and make your own playlist and even have them available where you dont have service.  The radio is better too.
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« Reply #2 on: April 06, 2014, 12:05:24 PM »

My answer is no. It's against the law to re-broadcast.
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« Reply #3 on: April 06, 2014, 12:28:36 PM »

My answer is no. It's against the law to re-broadcast.

This is it in a nutshell.  Case closed.
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Re: Streaming Music?
« Reply #4 on: April 06, 2014, 04:35:53 PM »

I had an event last night that required me to play random hit/chart music all night long. I did not have a lot of downloaded music available being that I'm not a DJ so I used Pandora on shuffle. It did the job however even with the paid version I was getting an occasional commercial.

My question is anyone now of any better streaming radio sites that are better then pandora and has no interruptions to use at events such as this?




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Your job required you to be a DJ, but you're not a DJ.
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« Reply #5 on: April 06, 2014, 04:38:32 PM »

My answer is no. It's against the law to re-broadcast.

We even refuse to play CD's that a client provides unless they or the venue has the public performance rights.

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« Reply #6 on: April 06, 2014, 08:32:38 PM »

Our clients have as a rider in the rental agreement, that by signing they have obtained all necessary copyright and performances licenses needed.

Do most of our clients obtain them?  I would guess 90% do not.  We're covered though.
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« Reply #7 on: April 06, 2014, 09:34:30 PM »

I know the legalities but I think BMI and ASCAP are a scam and the laws don't make sense. 

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If I pay them for performance rights to play prerecorded music in a public setting, why should I have to pay for the private license as well (by buying it)?  Shouldn't they provide me with any music that they license?  Their fees would make more sense if they also offered a Spotify-like service for their full catalog.

They don't know what I'm playing at my venue or how much of it is being played.  The only feedback they get is if a performing artist reports what songs they play at my venue or if they send a spy.  There's no way the payout can be fair.  We almost never play the most popular songs as enter/exit music.

What about artists who are not covered by ASCAP or BMI?  Who do I pay then?

I part-own a 40 seat listening room that averages about 1 show a week so there isn't much money being made.  It's less of a commercial venture and more of something we do because we love it.  BMI alone wants $1700/yr from us.  I'm not sure what ASCAP wants.  I've begun only playing background music from locals whom I have direct permission to play.

Pandora has a business-class subscription but it requires a special piece of hardware.  Spotify and Pandora should be able to get deals to provide business-class subscriptions that use their existing apps.  Anyone know why they don't?
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Re: Streaming Music?
« Reply #8 on: April 06, 2014, 09:56:01 PM »

Our clients have as a rider in the rental agreement, that by signing they have obtained all necessary copyright and performances licenses needed.

Do most of our clients obtain them?  I would guess 90% do not.  We're covered though.

According to the attorneys that we have had in to talk to our AES chapter this does not cover you.  We have discussed it in depth regarding music recording and recording covers.  A studio is not covered simply because a client claims to have permission.  The live side of the business varies according to who is supposed to be responsible.  In many cases it's the venue but that's not always the case.

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« Reply #9 on: April 06, 2014, 10:01:43 PM »

I'll clarify and say that we have pretty comprehensive ASCAP/Bmi license that our municipal attorneys say covers any activity in the space.

Frankly - I have never heard of such a broad license existing. 

While I am no attorney, I would think that a statement signed by a client that says "my signature indicates I have obtained all meccessary copyrights and public performance permissions meccessary for any performer that occurs as part of my rental.

If it was up to me I would require they file a copy if their ASCAP/Bmi and for theater public performance rights. 

Lee - do you have more information on what the attorneys said the level of due diligence should be on the part of the venues?
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