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Author Topic: Funktion One Vero (was "But it's not a line array.....")  (Read 50496 times)

paul bell

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Re: But it's not a line array.....
« Reply #10 on: March 28, 2014, 12:53:54 AM »

Is Systems by Shorty still around?

HOLY HELL that's funny! BUT-would you believe the answer to this question is yes?

There is an art to dazzling them with bullshit.
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Re: But it's not a line array.....
« Reply #11 on: March 28, 2014, 01:19:21 AM »

Try this...


and if you look closely you can see there are at least 3 different boxes with red, blue and yellow handles. It appears that each may contain different speaker / driver combinations, as such it’s not your typical line array …but Tony will have some explaining to do  :)

I'd imagine they took a Clair style approach, with each color being a different vertical pattern. Though I could be entirely wrong.




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Re: But it's not a line array.....
« Reply #12 on: March 28, 2014, 01:29:11 AM »

One giant, 20' long horn that would need a phase plug of about 16' in length X 10' diameter.  It'll honk worse than the piezo horns on my Quads.

If they stack 4 high on a cart, why would they want to hang 17 boxes, seems like an odd configuration, assuming the vertical pattern is horn dependent rather than dependent on the length of the line????
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Re: But it's not a line array.....
« Reply #13 on: March 28, 2014, 01:50:23 AM »

I'd imagine they took a Clair style approach, with each color being a different vertical pattern. Though I could be entirely wrong.




Evan

I suspect you are correct...
« Last Edit: March 28, 2014, 01:52:26 AM by Peter Morris »
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Re: But it's not a line array.....
« Reply #14 on: March 28, 2014, 02:06:28 AM »

In this article of October 2013 Mr. Andrews admits line arrays go up "faster".

http://www.audioprointernational.com/news/read/best-of-british-funktion-one-still-flying-the-flag/06479

Yet in this piece dated 2004 he states this is not the case.

http://www.funktion-one.com/news/line-array-nice-but-dim/

What has changed?
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Re: But it's not a line array.....
« Reply #15 on: March 28, 2014, 03:12:59 AM »

What has changed?

The trends of people buying loudspeakers?
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Re: But it's not a line array.....
« Reply #16 on: March 28, 2014, 03:20:10 AM »

In this article of October 2013 Mr. Andrews admits line arrays go up "faster".

http://www.audioprointernational.com/news/read/best-of-british-funktion-one-still-flying-the-flag/06479

Yet in this piece dated 2004 he states this is not the case.

http://www.funktion-one.com/news/line-array-nice-but-dim/

What has changed?

time .... it's 9 years later
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Re: But it's not a line array.....
« Reply #17 on: March 28, 2014, 04:40:24 AM »

In this article of October 2013 Mr. Andrews admits line arrays go up "faster".

http://www.audioprointernational.com/news/read/best-of-british-funktion-one-still-flying-the-flag/06479

Yet in this piece dated 2004 he states this is not the case.

http://www.funktion-one.com/news/line-array-nice-but-dim/

What has changed?

Ah, you have hit upon the universal truth of buying loudspeaker systems (or pretty much any systems) that I constantly remind people of:


Nobody buys PA because it sounds good.



As long as it sounds halfway decent, then you buy it because:
- It rigs quickly
- It packs in the truck nice
- Its the right size & weight
- Its got the right dispersion for the application
- You have a good relationship with the dealer
- You can subhire it from the guy down the road easily
- Its cheap to run
- Its got the right brand name for the client
- You already had some other stuff by the same people
- You didn't want to have to change your amps/cabling/processor
- It looks pretty
- The dealer bought you lots of beers
- etc....

This is why line arrays won. Because they are far more practical than big point source systems. Its that simple. They didnt have to sound better to win, because actually, as long as they sound OK, people buy them for all the other business reasons that have nothing to do with sound quality.
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Re: But it's not a line array.....
« Reply #18 on: March 28, 2014, 05:25:56 AM »

Ah, you have hit upon the universal truth of buying loudspeaker systems (or pretty much any systems) that I constantly remind people of:


Nobody buys PA because it sounds good.



As long as it sounds halfway decent, then you buy it because:
- It rigs quickly
- It packs in the truck nice
- Its the right size & weight
- Its got the right dispersion for the application
- You have a good relationship with the dealer
- You can subhire it from the guy down the road easily
- Its cheap to run
- Its got the right brand name for the client
- You already had some other stuff by the same people
- You didn't want to have to change your amps/cabling/processor
- It looks pretty
- The dealer bought you lots of beers
- etc....

This is why line arrays won. Because they are far more practical than big point source systems. Its that simple. They didnt have to sound better to win, because actually, as long as they sound OK, people buy them for all the other business reasons that have nothing to do with sound quality.

Couldn't agree more but it's when the little guy tries to do it on no budget the whole thing falls flat on it's arse.
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Re: But it's not a line array.....
« Reply #19 on: March 28, 2014, 08:07:34 AM »

Those springback handles will rattle someday, probably sooner than later.

It's like looking a 1990's F1 car:  impressive in the flesh, great for its day, but alot has changed performance-wise since.

Tony is no doubt charging premium cash for rather pedestrian tech. A cult-ish thing...like BOSE?!

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Re: But it's not a line array.....
« Reply #19 on: March 28, 2014, 08:07:34 AM »


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