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Debbie Dunkley

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Re: SM58 fakes....Not so easy to detect?
« Reply #20 on: January 31, 2014, 12:18:11 PM »

IMO as relatively inexpensive as 57's / 58's are these days why would you take the risk of getting a fake?

I agree - especially now folks have been made aware that these fakes are everywhere and very difficult to detect . I must be honest - I hadn't even considered the fact that I could be buying a fake till recently - an SM58 was an SM58 as far as I was concerned. I am wiser now because of all the exposure this subject has had.
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Re: SM58 fakes....Not so easy to detect?
« Reply #21 on: January 31, 2014, 12:27:51 PM »

Well...I received a response right away..

Response By Email (Rick Waller) (01/31/2014 11:16 AM)

Unfortunately, we are not able to disclose the specific details that lead us to conclude a product is a counterfeit, since those are highly confidential and disclosing them might aid counterfeiters in their efforts.
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Re: SM58 fakes....Not so easy to detect?
« Reply #22 on: January 31, 2014, 12:30:28 PM »

And which stores are trustworthy? B&H, Sweetwater, Musician's Friend?
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Re: SM58 fakes....Not so easy to detect?
« Reply #23 on: January 31, 2014, 12:39:41 PM »

Well...I received a response right away..

Response By Email (Rick Waller) (01/31/2014 11:16 AM)

Unfortunately, we are not able to disclose the specific details that lead us to conclude a product is a counterfeit, since those are highly confidential and disclosing them might aid counterfeiters in their efforts.

If you have a suspect mic, ask them what areas they want to see and send them pics.  They will respond with a "genuine" or "counterfeit" answer.  They won't disclose what the factors are, and I can't blame them.

We get fake/counterfeit offers from China on a routine basis.  It's amazing what manufacturers have to put up with.  I have no idea what Shure or JBL or EV lose each year to this shit, but it has to be substantial.
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Re: SM58 fakes....Not so easy to detect?
« Reply #24 on: January 31, 2014, 12:41:45 PM »

Well...I received a response right away..

Response By Email (Rick Waller) (01/31/2014 11:16 AM)

Unfortunately, we are not able to disclose the specific details that lead us to conclude a product is a counterfeit, since those are highly confidential and disclosing them might aid counterfeiters in their efforts.
Makes sense. Will they cover the shipping to have them "inspected"?
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Re: SM58 fakes....Not so easy to detect?
« Reply #25 on: January 31, 2014, 12:51:20 PM »

And which stores are trustworthy? B&H, Sweetwater, Musician's Friend?
Gilliam Music, of course!

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Re: SM58 fakes....Not so easy to detect?
« Reply #26 on: January 31, 2014, 01:03:00 PM »

If you have a suspect mic, ask them what areas they want to see and send them pics.  They will respond with a "genuine" or "counterfeit" answer.  They won't disclose what the factors are, and I can't blame them.

We get fake/counterfeit offers from China on a routine basis.  It's amazing what manufacturers have to put up with.  I have no idea what Shure or JBL or EV lose each year to this shit, but it has to be substantial.

I understood his reason entirely - it makes perfect sense. I actually just responded and asked if he would be prepared to look over some pics I would send him.
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Re: SM58 fakes....Not so easy to detect?
« Reply #27 on: January 31, 2014, 01:04:45 PM »

If you have a suspect mic, ask them what areas they want to see and send them pics.  They will respond with a "genuine" or "counterfeit" answer.  They won't disclose what the factors are, and I can't blame them.

We get fake/counterfeit offers from China on a routine basis.  It's amazing what manufacturers have to put up with.  I have no idea what Shure or JBL or EV lose each year to this shit, but it has to be substantial.

Shure has a lot of experience dealing with fakes whenever you have an iconic mass market product (like their phono cartridges back in the day). I expect it is even worse today, but there are better tools for detecting fakes. And no you don't telegraph to the public what those anti-fraud markers are. I suspect there is a product cost associated with this anti-fraud engineering. 

I've even seen counterfeit CS800 amps from China and from SA, so it isn't limited to microphones. (Wood cabinet) speakers probably the worst sku for this. 

Caveat Emptor is written in latin because this problem is that old.  8)

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Re: SM58 fakes....Not so easy to detect?
« Reply #28 on: January 31, 2014, 01:05:06 PM »

Makes sense. Will they cover the shipping to have them "inspected"?

If my pics are not good enough - I could ask them if they will cover shipping. I doubt it though. I might just move on and going forward be extra vigilant. I think I am safe though with the ones I have.
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Re: SM58 fakes....Not so easy to detect?
« Reply #29 on: January 31, 2014, 01:09:04 PM »

Will they cover the shipping to have them "inspected"?

  ?!? Why would they? 

 
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