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Mac Kerr

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« on: January 22, 2014, 04:29:52 PM »

This week I have been sitting backstage in lower Manhattan with a bunch of RF Q&A mics and some lavs. The PA is small, some d&b E12s on sticks, and some more as delays on a truss. There are 34 tables in the room, and each one has a Q&A mic. There are also 12 lavs. Here are a couple of shots of the RF racks before we left the shop, front and back. All the audio is connected to a CL-5 via Dante.

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Re: Corporate RF
« Reply #1 on: January 22, 2014, 05:34:03 PM »

Very nice. I really really like the ULXDs. Not having to ever worry about transmitter AF levels can be a very wonderful thing.

Ahh, the Corp world, where there's more money spent on the RF rack than on the console.
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Re: Corporate RF
« Reply #2 on: January 22, 2014, 05:45:19 PM »

After all it is the quality of the source that makes the sound.  Mixer can be important to because of the routing and the control of the signals coming in. 

That is starting to look more like the rack of switching in the closet for a computer network.  It must be nice to replace that huge weight of audio cables with eithernet.   Is the color of the cables to any defined rolls?

The color code of the cables and defined rolls may be something to look into for troubleshooting. 

Have any of these devices started to see any IPV6 structures? 
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Re: Corporate RF
« Reply #3 on: January 22, 2014, 05:58:26 PM »

Mac, how much help is the ULX-D approach vs. traditional with respect to fitting in all those channels in a busy city? Big difference? Are you using the low-power/high-density setting at all?
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Re: Corporate RF
« Reply #4 on: January 22, 2014, 06:31:04 PM »

Mac, how much help is the ULX-D approach vs. traditional with respect to fitting in all those channels in a busy city? Big difference? Are you using the low-power/high-density setting at all?

Last time I did a show like (the same as?) that we were in the sub basement of a hotel with an absolutely clear UHF spectrum and used all the available UHF-R bands and it was simple.

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Re: Corporate RF
« Reply #5 on: January 22, 2014, 07:01:17 PM »

Embarrassingly, that's my chicken scratch on the UHF-R rack.  I'm surprised it's still there.
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Re: Corporate RF
« Reply #6 on: January 22, 2014, 07:16:44 PM »

Mac, how much help is the ULX-D approach vs. traditional with respect to fitting in all those channels in a busy city? Big difference? Are you using the low-power/high-density setting at all?

The ULX-D capabilities didn't really come into play. We are not running in Hi Density mode, we are at 10mw, and we ran a regular frequency coordination with IAS. We have 40 ULX-Ds, 8 UHF-Rs, and 1 BTR800, and we are in a part of Manhattan that is presently not too bad for RF. When the broadcasters move their transmitters back down to WTC things may be different, but here on the river right next to the World Financial Center we are pretty clear.

The resistance to creation of IM products in the ULXs may be making our job easier, but we would still be able to do it with UHF-Rs. This job wanted the extra security of the encryption, although the fact that we also have 8 UHF-Rs sort of negates that. This is a bit of a test run for a system of more ULX-Ds.

We did do a walk test with one of the mics at 1mw to see how it worked. As expected the RF was down somewhere between 10 and 20dB (should be -10dB), but we still had full bars everywhere in the ballroom. We stuck with 10mw because we could, and because of lack of experience at those low power levels.

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Re: Corporate RF
« Reply #7 on: January 22, 2014, 10:35:19 PM »

Hmmm, ULX-D does Dante? Wow, missed that. 


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Re: Corporate RF
« Reply #8 on: January 23, 2014, 02:26:21 AM »

Hmmm, ULX-D does Dante? Wow, missed that. 

Yeah, you can even control the discovery and patching of the ULX-D from the CL, since version 1.61 (?).
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Re: Corporate RF
« Reply #9 on: January 23, 2014, 07:55:36 AM »


Hmmm, ULX-D does Dante? Wow, missed that. 


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Currently only the two and four channel units have Dante. The singles do not.
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Re: Corporate RF
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