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Re: Which analog console would you like to see at FOH ( Medium Show) today ?
« Reply #40 on: December 02, 2013, 12:02:59 PM »

Take your digital bias and stick it.

Sorry, I can't hear you over all the ROI. :p




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Re: Which analog console would you like to see at FOH ( Medium Show) today ?
« Reply #41 on: December 02, 2013, 12:05:46 PM »

Take your digital bias and stick it.

I don't know if that's a joke or some play on words that I don't get or whatever, but Evan's "bias" is one based on reality.  I can't think of one advantage that an analog board can offer me.
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Re: Which analog console would you like to see at FOH ( Medium Show) today ?
« Reply #42 on: December 02, 2013, 12:10:35 PM »

I don't know if that's a joke or some play on words that I don't get or whatever, but Evan's "bias" is one based on reality.  I can't think of one advantage that an analog board can offer me.

Mr. Rees comment went over your head so fast we saw your hair move.  (New Orleans expression I heard years ago).  Dick owns multiple consoles of both flavors and specializes in direct-to-broadcast live performance mixing.

He also plays the accordion and owns a banjo....  You have been warned.  8)
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Re: Which analog console would you like to see at FOH ( Medium Show) today ?
« Reply #43 on: December 02, 2013, 12:10:48 PM »

Dick, where's the the smiley for "irony"?  Trading in your StudioLive and Qu16 for a PM4000?

My mother ironies and my father steels... ;)

Guess I'm just tired of people jumping in and dismissing the OP by ignoring his question and offering their expert opinion on how what they use is better.  It's like someone asking which model of Martin guitar they should use and the reply being "use a Strat, dummy".

Phooey. :P
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Re: Which analog console would you like to see at FOH ( Medium Show) today ?
« Reply #44 on: December 02, 2013, 12:20:58 PM »

Guess I'm just tired of people jumping in and dismissing the OP by ignoring his question and offering their expert opinion on how what they use is better.  It's like someone asking which model of Martin guitar they should use and the reply being "use a Strat, dummy".

Phooey. :P

Yeah, and sometimes we can read between the lines and offer suggestions that meet the actual need.  In this case Maidson's business partner likes analogue, either because he has an aversion to digital audio or wants to take advantage of the cheap as chips prices on analogue mixers.  http://forums.prosoundweb.com/index.php/topic,147148.msg1353077.html#msg1353077

They can buy whatever they want, and I'm not sure that what we expect to find in clubs in the USA or Europe applies to Haiti... but I think that basing a business model for any particular application that relies on new purchases of aging technology (as opposed to aging technicians) is usually a bad idea.
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Re: Which analog console would you like to see at FOH ( Medium Show) today ?
« Reply #45 on: December 02, 2013, 12:29:46 PM »

He also plays the accordion and owns a banjo....

I own a banjo too.  Don't play it much now though (it's an analogue banjo).


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Re: Which analog console would you like to see at FOH ( Medium Show) today ?
« Reply #46 on: December 02, 2013, 12:32:43 PM »

Yeah, and sometimes we can read between the lines and offer suggestions that meet the actual need.  In this case Maidson's business partner likes analogue, either because he has an aversion to digital audio or wants to take advantage of the cheap as chips prices on analogue mixers.  http://forums.prosoundweb.com/index.php/topic,147148.msg1353077.html#msg1353077

They can buy whatever they want, and I'm not sure that what we expect to find in clubs in the USA or Europe applies to Haiti... but I think that basing a business model for any particular application that relies on new purchases of aging technology (as opposed to aging technicians) is usually a bad idea.

I wouldn't exactly classify the APB Spectra T as "aging technology".
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Re: Which analog console would you like to see at FOH ( Medium Show) today ?
« Reply #47 on: December 02, 2013, 01:33:54 PM »

I wouldn't exactly classify the APB Spectra T as "aging technology".
As an aging analog console designer, I hate to say this, but there is a tidal shift in console markets as digital feature sets, at scary low prices, tilt the purchase decision harder toward the dark (digital) side.

The APB is sonically as good as a console ever needs to be. The calculus these days is tilted toward features and operational facilities. At some point it may not matter how good it sounds if you can not control it from your IPAD or whatever.

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Re: Which analog console would you like to see at FOH ( Medium Show) today ?
« Reply #48 on: December 02, 2013, 02:13:35 PM »

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The APB is sonically as good as a console ever needs to be. The calculus these days is tilted toward features and operational facilities. At some point it may not matter how good it sounds if you can not control it from your IPAD or whatever.

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For the vast majority of applications i think we're already there.  The sound quality gap has shrunk to a razor's edge, and the features/convenience/cost gap has grown into a chasm.
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Re: Which analog console would you like to see at FOH ( Medium Show) today ?
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