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Steven Fondren

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Good brands vs bad brands
« on: July 02, 2013, 08:28:05 pm »

Our church has had a crossover/amp donated for the specific purpose of installing a sub in our church.  The sub that was donated is too large (the cabinet) to fit in the only place we have available for one to go.  We hate to "waste" the crossover/amp, so we are considering purchasing a sub.  The cabinet cannot have a vertical height >18" which limits us to a 12" or possibly a 15" in a tight cabinet.  We are a small church with limited funds so unfortunately the $1k JBL is out of the question.  Aside from JBL's and Yamaha, I've not had much experience with speakers.  I realize that even good companies make low end products but I also know that there are some companies you just don't buy from.  Could anyone offer any suggestions as to "cheaper" brands that still make good products and any brands to steer clear of?
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Re: Good brands vs bad brands
« Reply #1 on: July 02, 2013, 09:00:26 pm »

The cabinet cannot have a vertical height >18" which limits us to a 12" or possibly a 15" in a tight cabinet.  We are a small church with limited funds..
Steven,

Most 18" are less than 10" deep, placed "sideways" in a slot one can easily be fit in under 18" of vertical clearance.
If your existing box has a speaker, and is of decent quality, a rebuild could easily be done by any reasonably competent wood butcher.

If that is not possible, you need to define a budget and the maximum dimensions of the enclosure . $1000 is too much, what is the upper end?
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Steven Fondren

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Re: Good brands vs bad brands
« Reply #2 on: July 02, 2013, 09:48:16 pm »

There is no existing cabinet.  The sub will be placed under the front edge of a stage with a grill opening of some kind.  The max vertical on the cabinet is 18" due to the stage height.  The width and depth could really be as big as needed.  Really wanting to go no more than 500 on the cost.
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« Reply #3 on: July 03, 2013, 07:57:46 am »

There is no existing cabinet.  The sub will be placed under the front edge of a stage with a grill opening of some kind.  The max vertical on the cabinet is 18" due to the stage height.  The width and depth could really be as big as needed.  Really wanting to go no more than 500 on the cost.

EV's QRx118s has an angled baffle to keep the width under that, you could simply lay them on their side to fit.
Not sure if they're common enough second hand to be down to your budget or not though.
HTH,
David.
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« Reply #4 on: July 03, 2013, 10:49:10 am »

Can you stretch the budget by saving up for a few more months and get a Danley TH-mini?
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« Reply #5 on: July 03, 2013, 12:24:25 pm »

Can you stretch the budget by saving up for a few more months and get a Danley TH-mini?

Or TH-212 - better output and extension, still only 15" tall.
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Re: Good brands vs bad brands
« Reply #6 on: July 03, 2013, 07:21:20 pm »

What's the rationale for placing the sub-woofer in that particular location?
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« Reply #7 on: July 04, 2013, 01:07:37 am »

USED, Old good stuff is allways better than New junk.
Other options are possiblie to purchase cabs and laod them with your own speakers.Could build a box if its for a non-transport deal you don't need handles and some of that type hardware,could be done fairly cheap.
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« Reply #8 on: July 04, 2013, 09:15:33 am »

There is a lot to consider before worrying about the speaker brand.  It seems to make sense to first verify that what you can physically and/or financially manage will be able to support the goals involved, otherwise you seem to potentially be spending money that might be better invested elsewhere.

Perhaps the first thing to do in that process is to establish the goals and expectations.  What are your existing mains?  How do you use the system?  What improvements in performance or added capabilities are you expecting from adding a sub?  What does that relate in terms of the subwoofer performance required if driven by the currently undefined existing crossover and amplifier?
 
Have you looked under the stage to verify the construction and what space is actually possible?  Both the face framing and structural framing of the stage itself might make the actual usable space smaller than you think.  Having to create some type of sealed enclosure in which to install the subwoofer is often appropriate or even required for under stage applications, what might that do for the available dimensions and budget?   Then there is figuring out how to get the cabling to the subwoofer.  It might be prudent to make sure you have a good understanding of what the actual installation of a subwoofer under the stage would entail before proceeding in that direction.
 
Once you have a better idea of what you need or want the subwoofer to do and of any actual limitations on size, etc. then you will have a better basis for selecting specific products.  Otherwise regardless of the name on the box you could simply end up with yet another box that doesn't work for the application.
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Good brands vs bad brands
« Reply #9 on: July 04, 2013, 10:11:34 am »

What is the brand and model of the sub and crossover/amp donated?

Perhaps selling them could add to the budget for a sub that would fit?


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