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[Benjamin D. HIll]

lol chuck thats a good one. its just somthing us crazy religious types say because we think that every thing we have comes from him. oh and the new soundcraft expression is in your price range if you want to get into a better digtal board.

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But these are just my opinions so take them with a grain of salt and enjoy whatever new system God sends your way.
Wow!  God sends out PA systems?  I better start praying!

[Chuck Simon]

oh and the new soundcraft expression is in your price range if you want to get into a better digtal board.

Thanks, but I'm pretty happy with my present set up.  Are you a Soundcraft dealer?  I'm very curious about your comments concering my "price range".  What do you think my price range is?

[Yosi Melamed]

Hello folks, I would like to get your opinion on a new sound system I will soon be purchasing. I'm pretty limited as far as the money I can spend so here are the 2 systems I was thinking about...

System A:
2x carvin TRX2218's
2x carvin TRX2153's
DBX Driverack PA
2x behringer nu6000's (lows, mids)
1x behringer nu3000 (highs)
behringer x32 digital console

or

System B:
2x Peavey SP2BX's
2x Peavey SP218BX's
DBX Driverack PA
2x behringer nu6000's (lows, mids)
1x behringer nu1000 (highs)
behringer x32 digital console

Essentially the only difference is going to be the speakers. What do you think? Carvin or Peavey?

Before anyone can give a reasonable answer, I think there are many unanswered questions here, what on earth do you want to do with this rig and where?? Be as specific as possible!!! Is used gear an option? If you're on a budget why not go active instead of passive?

There are so many highly experienced folks here, why not tell us your budget and needs and let us help you build the best possible rig for the $$$ instead of you giving us two systems that non of us really know what to recommend...

From what I see here you mixed up bottom end gear with not so bottom end yet pricy gear (the X32), why do need to spend so much on a digital console when you sacrifice so much of the rest??

[Jon C Thomas]

Before anyone can give a reasonable answer, I think there are many unanswered questions here, what on earth do you want to do with this rig and where?? Be as specific as possible!!! Is used gear an option? If you're on a budget why not go active instead of passive?

There are so many highly experienced folks here, why not tell us your budget and needs and let us help you build the best possible rig for the $$$ instead of you giving us two systems that non of us really know what to recommend...

From what I see here you mixed up bottom end gear with not so bottom end yet pricy gear (the X32), why do need to spend so much on a digital console when you sacrifice so much of the rest??

I can see why he wants a fancy digital board (if) he is doing theater. The Presonsis studiolive might be a cheaper option or even the little Mackie 1608/new Behringer if Ipad mixing is a option. 

More info than,  "I mainly run sound for churches, coffeehouses and occasionally a few schools. Currently I have 2 PV115's and 2 PV 118's" is needed.

I agree decent powered boxes would much more versatile than a mishmash of passive gear, with a digital board and active boxes you ditch a ton of outboard gear.     

[Josh Edward]

Before anyone can give a reasonable answer, I think there are many unanswered questions here, what on earth do you want to do with this rig and where?? Be as specific as possible!!! Is used gear an option? If you're on a budget why not go active instead of passive?

There are so many highly experienced folks here, why not tell us your budget and needs and let us help you build the best possible rig for the $$$ instead of you giving us two systems that non of us really know what to recommend...

From what I see here you mixed up bottom end gear with not so bottom end yet pricy gear (the X32), why do need to spend so much on a digital console when you sacrifice so much of the rest??

Used gear is definitely an option but before I go any further let me get you up to date. This will be primarily used in what used to be a school gym with a stage. Each Friday night we will have bands (primarily rock/alternative) come and play. This system will also be used for outdoor events in parks and such. I would like to have a system that could cover up to 500 people outside If needed.

I don't want to spend more than 12k on this PA so I want to try and stretch that as much as I can. I found an EV MT-1 speaker system for a decent price so I'm going to go with that. It's a good brand and I know the mtl1's dont go too low but I'm not going to be doing dance music or much rap.

As far as the mixer goes, I already have an A&H GL2400 but I'm figuring it this way; With the amount of processing available in the x32, I would have to spend almost as much money in outboard gear for the GL2400, plus I want to record the live shows into pro tools. The x32 is only 3k so to me it seems like a clear choice with the amount of features it has, and I hear it sounds pretty good. So with the speakers and the mixer thats 7k. That leaves me with 5k for the rest of the PA.

[Jack keaton]

Used gear is definitely an option but before I go any further let me get you up to date. This will be primarily used in what used to be a school gym with a stage. Each Friday night we will have bands (primarily rock/alternative) come and play. This system will also be used for outdoor events in parks and such. I would like to have a system that could cover up to 500 people outside If needed.

I don't want to spend more than 12k on this PA so I want to try and stretch that as much as I can. I found an EV MT-1 speaker system for a decent price so I'm going to go with that. It's a good brand and I know the mtl1's dont go too low but I'm not going to be doing dance music or much rap.

As far as the mixer goes, I already have an A&H GL2400 but I'm figuring it this way; With the amount of processing available in the x32, I would have to spend almost as much money in outboard gear for the GL2400, plus I want to record the live shows into pro tools. The x32 is only 3k so to me it seems like a clear choice with the amount of features it has, and I hear it sounds pretty good. So with the speakers and the mixer thats 7k. That leaves me with 5k for the rest of the PA.

I wouldnt pay more then 2200 for a x32.

[Josh Edward]

I wouldnt pay more then 2200 for a x32.

Why is that?

[Benjamin D. HIll]

i was refering to the orginal poster. i am not a dealer in anything i just like sound craft and the quote i receaved from a dealer was around 3 grand for the si expressions 3

Thanks, but I'm pretty happy with my present set up.  Are you a Soundcraft dealer?  I'm very curious about your comments concering my "price range".  What do you think my price range is?

[Anthony Mirador]

Definitely go with the new Carvin TRx Speakers! Carvin has really stepped up their game! All the New TRx fullrange models have a bigger 1.4 exit HF driver.  Also go with the Carvins new DCM-LX Series DSP amps....much better than the Behringer amps. 

[Scott Bolt]

I would recommend the following:

2xJBL PRX612m tops - $1400.00 here: http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/PRX612M

2xJBL PRX618S-XLF subs $2600.00

Behringer X32 $3000.00

You could easily stay in your budget and double the speakers.  That should cover 500 people outside at rock levels.

This system would be very easy to setup.  No amps, no cross-over, and it would just sound good right out of the box.

The X32 is not an entry level mixer.  If you have never used a higher end digital mixer before this mixer could be a challenge for you.  As far as I can see, there is really no competition for the X32 in the 32 channel MI space anywhere near this price range.  I know of people who are replacing Yamaha LS9's which is many times more expensive with this mixer.

The X32 has a 3 year warranty; however, I think the motorized faders are only covered for 1 year.

The studio live is easier to use and does not have motorized faders; however, the 32 channel version is $1000.00 more than the X32.

I think you should seriously consider using powered speakers.  I think you will get more power, and better sound on this route.

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