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[Kev Jones]

Facebook?  I'm really not impressed.

[Marc Platt]

I just realized the aux "pre source" is still post eq with no option to send pre eq. That is a major issue for me running aux fed monitors as most people likely do with this mixer.
 Come on mackie! I just got the thing and only mixed live once so far without realizing mackie would have done such a stupid thing.
 Now I realize why eq changes wanted to cause feedback a few times which I thought was from the mains since it was a small venue and my mains are pretty powerfull but now I am sure the monitors were the source...

[Jonathan Betts]

This is what I was referring to in my previous post. Aux tap points need to have options.

[Ron Kimball]

I just realized the aux "pre source" is still post eq with no option to send pre eq. That is a major issue for me running aux fed monitors as most people likely do with this mixer.
 Come on mackie! I just got the thing and only mixed live once so far without realizing mackie would have done such a stupid thing.
 Now I realize why eq changes wanted to cause feedback a few times which I thought was from the mains since it was a small venue and my mains are pretty powerfull but now I am sure the monitors were the source...

Welcome to our nightmare .

But seriously, many analog boards used to run post-EQ auxes so if you've dealt with it back then it's not a big issue. The problem comes when you're running your monitors stoopid loud with singers who have no power like seems to be the norm these days - at least hereabouts .

[Jonathan Betts]

Fortunately for Mackie the majority of users will use this mixer completely unaware of this issue. I found it by reading the block diagram.

[Marc Platt]

But seriously, many analog boards used to run post-EQ auxes

For years I personally try and keep A&H as a sort of standard minimum (whenever a budget console fits the bill) and I have not come across any of their products that did not include at least an internal "jumper" mod for setting custom "pre source".
 Any situation where I mix stage and house from single console I have been fortunate to have pre eq aux sends, at least for the past 10yrs or so. The bottom line is that It seems to be one of those things I would expect in a digital product  and I think it's almost a deal breaker and I am considering returning the DL1608 while I still have the option.

[Ron Kimball]

The bottom line is that It seems to be one of those things I would expect in a digital product  and I think it's almost a deal breaker and I am considering returning the DL1608 while I still have the option.

It does make me seriously doubt that they consulted ANY live sound guys when they designed this board .

[Marc Platt]

It does make me seriously doubt that they consulted ANY live sound guys when they designed this board .

Seems almost typical Mackie

[Ron Kimball]

Seems almost typical Mackie

I'm sure the PreSonus StudioLive wasn't developed with live sound guy input either - it took a couple updates before it didn't suck too. I wish PreSonus would make a rackmount surfaceless SL that was controllable via an iPad without needing a Mac in between. That would blow away the DL1608 for sure!

OTOH the rumor is that Mackie is releasing a new firmware at NAMM so if they at least fix the aux tap points most of us will find it usable. Personally I want the tap points to be selectable per-channel - for instance I usually need compression on the keys and EQ on the kick in the monitors. Oh, and I need the send for the 'verb on horns to be pre-fader if the horns are plenty loud to carry the room but I want 'verb on them in the monitors and maybe some 'verb in the mains to sweeten them.

[Patrick Tracy]

It does make me seriously doubt that they consulted ANY live sound guys when they designed this board .

Or maybe the ones who like post eq monitor sends just aren't spending their time reading this thread (except for me, apparently).

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