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Matt Vivlamore

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Re: Will my SRX rig be enough for this venue?
« Reply #10 on: November 26, 2012, 03:00:58 pm »

Garry,
        I am with Dick. If the house system is properly deployed, it will seriously outperform your rig in SPL, and more importantly coverage and clarity. I would use that if possible.

JP


I would think that the house system is out of the question since the Client has hired Garry to provide the Audio Production for this event.
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Re: Will my SRX rig be enough for this venue?
« Reply #11 on: November 26, 2012, 03:18:00 pm »


I would think that the house system is out of the question since the Client has hired Garry to provide the Audio Production for this event.

I would think the promoter wants to go cheaper than to pay for the "premium" of the house system.

There's one such hall near me.  Anyone bringing in their own rig for a show is either super-high end or just wants sound on the main floor.

If the promoter wants good coverage in the balcony seating as well as the first floor, he's going to have to pay for it.......one way or another.  The older I get, the less willing I am to deal with producing someone's artistic/technical "vision" for what they've decided is enough $$$ BEFORE bringing me in.
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Re: Will my SRX rig be enough for this venue?
« Reply #12 on: November 26, 2012, 11:46:01 pm »

Or you could avoid 90% of the grunt work and just use the installed EAW house system which is already set to cover the entire space...............

I just saw this. How much says the promoter didn't opt for the house system because it would cost more than hiring the OP??
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Re: Will my SRX rig be enough for this venue?
« Reply #13 on: November 27, 2012, 03:43:33 am »

I would think that the house system is out of the question since the Client has hired Garry to provide the Audio Production for this event.
I don't believe Garry really defined his role other than it being a gig.  If he is hired to provide a sound system then it has apparently already been decided by others to use something other than the house sound.  However, if he is hired to 'take care of the sound' or provide them direction then unless you know that what you will provide would offer a better result and/or better value than the house system, are you serving the Client to not explore the option of using the house system?
 
 
I know they have equipment listed/owned by the venue, but what I been told is most soundcos bring in their own rig, maybe MSU charges a pretty penny to use their system.
I just saw this. How much says the promoter didn't opt for the house system because it would cost more than hiring the OP??
Looks like possibly the same issue here, I couldn't tell for sure if Garry's comment meant he had been hired to provide a sound system and was guessing at why the promoter did that or if the house system was an option available to him but he was assuming it was best to not use it because others had and guessing at why that might be.  If the latter, then given the system Garry has available it seems to make sense to at least verify the cost and any other reasons to or not to use the house system.
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Re: Will my SRX rig be enough for this venue?
« Reply #14 on: November 27, 2012, 07:54:19 am »


I would think that the house system is out of the question since the Client has hired Garry to provide the Audio Production for this event.

I've done many shows where I am hired to provide the desired results. Sometimes that means keeping my rig on truck and paying to use the house system. It all depends on the customer.

JP
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Re: Will my SRX rig be enough for this venue?
« Reply #15 on: November 27, 2012, 08:03:41 am »


I just saw this. How much says the promoter didn't opt for the house system because it would cost more than hiring the OP??

At our local Performing Arts and Convention Center, use of the installed systems are included with the hall rental.  The 4 stagehand minimum call includes an audio technician, carpenter, electrician (lights) and props head.  The labor call doesn't get smaller if the client hires in a system, in fact it can get bigger.

After reading this thread, it's ironic that in Wichita the PAC has clients who complain the rent is too high.  The only thing they charge extra for is follow spot hours.
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Re: Will my SRX rig be enough for this venue?
« Reply #16 on: November 27, 2012, 06:16:16 pm »

Murphy Fine Arts Center/Gilliam Concert Hall  - Morgan State Unv, Baltimore, MD
http://www.murphyfineartscenter.org/pages/MFAC_Rental/gilliam/index.asp

check the specs:
http://www.murphyfineartscenter.org/pages/MFAC_Rental/gilliam/techSpecs_gill.asp

Seating Capacity: 2,036

Jazz Concert

What I have: x2 SRX725 and x2 SRX728 per side, I also have x2 SRX722 and x4 SRX718 available, which I thought maybe a 722/718 stack on the inside of each main stack to hit the seats close to the stage. Enough rig? I forgot to mention I do have a set of 715s, maybe front fill.

I am able to get a friend's set of SRX725/725, he has the same quantity of boxes, but I don't want to add that expense if I don't have to. Amps are Crown Macrotech-I.

My biggest concern is a ground stacked system in a venue with balcony seating, a little high.

I'm good on the monitor system requirement.



I know they have equipment listed/owned by the venue, but what I been told is most soundcos bring in their own rig, maybe MSU charges a pretty penny to use their system.


Garry
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Hi Fellas,

        I guess I need to clarify a bit. Assuming I get the contract, I'm being hired to provide sound for a contemporary jazz concert with some R&B elements thrown in.

 I talked with the house engineer yesterday and again today (Tue). He states there are no fly points and the house system is tuned primarily for vocals and is great for choirs, plays and orchestras. So events that don't fit this criteria need to bring in a system. He did say that they generally send him a signal to feed to the house delay speakers and that there is always a bit of work to get things time aligned. Also, the FOH position that is generally used for soundcos is more appropriate. You're in the house, not in the room with sliding glass doors.  I did ask was there an additional charge for use of the system, his impression was all was included and you just use what you need to accentuate your system.

Lastly, the house engineer stated that most of these types of event rarely have many folks in the upper balcony. Also, I just bought tickets to an event there on Sunday (Dec2)to give myself more insight. 

The quote I sent for FOH is 4x SRX728, 4x SRX725 and 2x SRX712 (front fill), I'm using Crown 2x MA-5000i on tops and 2x MA-12000i subs.  2x LS9-32 FoH/Mon

Garry

P.S. thanks for all the inputs
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