And for us first time Midas users, how we go about getting the new software.Also, is there a list of the fixes and additions for the new release?Thanks!!!!
I asked this a long time ago and this is the response I received.When muting VCA's the channel contribution mute lights should indicate a mute state some how. Blink on stay on solid.This is a long and twisting road, so I will try and keep this as brief as I can. Unfortunately as with all things (especially when it comes to software) there are limitations, many of which may not become apparent immediately. What I am going to try to do below is give you an insight into how a software engineer needs to look at, what would seem on the outside, a very simple function. The mute buttons are a very good case in point. Because there are really only 3 ways to show a mutes status (off/on/flashing),so it becomes very difficult to show exact information on how a channel is muted and from where. Some examples: 1) When you ‘mute’ a channel from the channel mute you are muting all sends (pre or post) from it2) When you ‘mute’ a channel from a mute group you are muting all sends (pre or post) from it3) When you ‘mute a channel from a VCA group you are muting only post fader sends from it4) Mute groups can contain inputs, outputs or both5) VCA groups can contain inputs, outputs or bothThere are more examples I can give you As you can see there are too many states, that have different effects on the audio path, that we can display clearly and concisely on one button. For example: What happens when a channel is muted on its channel mute, but also muted within a VCA group? If you unmute the channel you would presume it would turn on (which it might for some pre fade sends), but it would still be muted by the VCA. We will continue to look at as many functional options as we can. We would never discount doing something simply because it was hard. In the future multi-coloured mutes switches might work better than the traditional red. Things were so much easier on analogue consoles!I figure I would save Jason the time since he already fielded this one for me previously.
I'm sure there are many more examples where this is a problem, but in reply to your final example: "What happens when a channel is muted on its channel mute, but also muted within a VCA group? If you unmute the channel you would presume it would turn on (which it might for some pre fade sends), but it would still be muted by the VCA."On any analogue console I have worked on, as soon as you unmute on the channel whilst the VCA is still muted, the channel mute goes from solid red to flashing red. Seems quite obvious to me. Solid red= local mute, Flashing=non-local mute, off=unmuted. I see that it gets complicated to show a mute status when a channel may be muted in more than two ways (e.g. channel mute, VCA mute, Mute group) but in the example given, I can't see the problem. All that aside, the biggest issue that needs to be overcome is that when a channels mute light is off all together, the user should be able to assume that the channel is ON completely. Attention only needs to be drawn to the situation when pressing the mute button doesn't have the expected effect and then the cause of the non-local mutes can be investigated further.
Midas analogue consoles did not have flashing mutes, they worked in exactly the same way as our digital consoles do now. I'm not using this as any kind of excuse to not make the digital consoles work differently, I'm just stating a fact.I'm really trying to avoid getting into an intellectual discussion here on this subject, as I've already said to Brian, it's a very deep rabbit hole. We are looking at ways we can improve this particular part of the UI. Making lights flash might not be the way we decide to do it.Thanks,Jason
Making lights flash might not be the way we decide to do it.Thanks,Jason
Thanks Brian, it does indeed save a lot of time.But I wanted to mention that we are still looking at this issue, we do understand why our users are asking for this kind of indication for mute status. Hopefully we will have a solution/option in a future software update.Thanks,Jason
A couple of questions....Is there any way to clear any/all the hardware safes without going through each channel individually?It only seems possible to set up mute groups from the 'control groups' page, NOT on the surface ( despite what it says in the manual ) - or am I doing something wrong?and a feature request;'Muting' a VCA ( I know technically it's not actually a mute, but people are going to use it as if it was) doesn't trigger any kind of indication on the affected channels as to what's going on, which imo has the potential to be very confusing, especially if for example you're working in extended mode or have your VCAs hidden for some other reason. Would it be possible to implement for example a feature where the mute lights flash when they're muted from a vca? and would it be a good idea to have them work as true mutes rather than fader down?
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