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Mike Pyle

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Re: I need small powerfull side fills
« Reply #10 on: February 01, 2013, 01:03:30 am »

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Re: I need small powerfull side fills
« Reply #11 on: February 01, 2013, 02:26:06 am »

So you have 3 600W speaker up front (with sensitivity of 101 dB @ 1 meter) and you want l & R rears to complement... As has been discussed many time PA speakers are not usually the best choices for any number of reasons. 

The AC18 which has a rotatable 120 x 60 horn seems to me to be either too wide or too narrow for a corner speaker.   

Assuming a square / rectangular room a 90 degrees box would sort of give you even near-field coverage yet maximize the sweet spot while minimizing reflections from the walls.

The JF 8 is 100 degrees conical.

The CFX81 is 150 x 60 degrees

The QSC AD-s82H is 90 x 60  ---- >  I "vote" for this one  mounted in a corner at a 45 degree angle from the wall.
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Re: I need small powerfull side fills
« Reply #12 on: February 01, 2013, 07:43:08 am »

  I have limited space, so that's how I arrived at my list- 11 x 16 (H) x 12  Thanks!
No I am even MORE confused.  You have a room that is 11x12 (on the floor) and you can put FIFTY people in it?

I hope they are GOOD friends.

That is assuming you are talking feet.  If you are talking Meters-then that is a different story.  But if you have a room that has a ceiling 16M- WOW.  Is it a bit "boomy?

When looking at speakers you also need to consider the coverage pattern of the speaker in relation to the seating area.  The vertical height will also greatly affect this coverage.

So NOW we need a drawing or something that gives a general idea of the space you are trying to cover-possible locations of speakers and so forth.  But as a general rule-for a larger number of people you are going to need a wider pattern.

HOWEVER you really need to look past the "simple numbers" in the spec sheet.  Since these are all small speakers-they will have small horns.  Small horns exhibit pattern flip and the actual pattern (at all but the highest freq) is likely to be VERY different than the simple numbers.  You need to get the REAL story-if you are going to talk about coverage patterns-or are trying to cover people evenly.

Also remember that the surrounds typically don't need to "keep up" with the mains.  They often have quite a bit lower capacity in output.  I don't have any specs-but a "really wild guess" would be 10dB-(somebody please correct me if I am off base on this one-I really have no idea of a target regarding max output).

So where does the DJ come into this?????????
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Re: I need small powerfull side fills
« Reply #13 on: February 07, 2013, 11:19:59 am »

Ivan, he came clean... Home theater.

I suppose the DJ plays at intermission. ;)
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Re: I need small powerfull side fills
« Reply #14 on: February 07, 2013, 08:42:50 pm »

Ivan, he came clean... Home theater.

I suppose the DJ plays at intermission. ;)

Think of it as a private club with  A/V...  personally I'd be happy with Tannoys ... wait I HAVE Tannoys... I must be happy.
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Re: I need small powerfull side fills
« Reply #15 on: February 07, 2013, 09:10:20 pm »

Ivan, he came clean... Home theater.

I suppose the DJ plays at intermission. ;)
Maybe in part of the original post-but what about the rest of the "description of the place".

Knowing what is truthful would really help.
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