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Andrew Brubaker

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Re: Crown XTI USB directly to router
« Reply #10 on: November 26, 2012, 11:00:09 AM »


I've run XTI rack with a Keyspan TCP/IP to USB server.  I think they my not be made anymore, however.

What model were you using? I just bought the TP-Link TL-PS310U as per the recommendation above and spent several hours on it this past weekend and was unable to get it work. Also, I do not like the fact that you have to have special software to make it happen. Is there a way to connect the XTi amps to a network that does not involve any software to be installed and running on the pc side? Also, is there a way to get this working on a mac?
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Re: Crown XTI USB directly to router
« Reply #11 on: November 26, 2012, 02:02:10 PM »

What model were you using? I just bought the TP-Link TL-PS310U as per the recommendation above and spent several hours on it this past weekend and was unable to get it work. Also, I do not like the fact that you have to have special software to make it happen. Is there a way to connect the XTi amps to a network that does not involve any software to be installed and running on the pc side? Also, is there a way to get this working on a mac?

The quick answer is NO.

The whole concept of the XTi series is that it's NOT a baby I-Tech.  Crown's take is that if you need remote, real time monitoring and control of networked amplifiers via TCP/IP connections, you should be buying I-Techs.

The reliable way to do this is get a cheap net top or laptop and park it at your amp racks.  Use USB hubs to connect the amps in each rack to a USB port on the host computer.  Use VNC to connect that computer to whatever remote client computer you want to use to monitor or control with.

You are correct, Band Manager is Windows-only.  Bite the bullet and take an old Windows machine you have laying around and use it.  You can still use your iFruit to VNC into it so you won't soil your hands by touching a Windoze box. /sarcasm, humor, other literary devices
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Re: Crown XTI USB directly to router
« Reply #12 on: November 26, 2012, 04:23:06 PM »

The reliable way to do this is get a cheap net top or laptop and park it at your amp racks.  Use USB hubs to connect the amps in each rack to a USB port on the host computer.  Use VNC to connect that computer to whatever remote client computer you want to use to monitor or control with.

Thank you for the idea! That's probably the route I'll go at this point. And humor is always appreciated  ;)
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Re: Crown XTI USB directly to router
« Reply #13 on: January 26, 2013, 02:12:13 PM »

The quick answer is NO.

The whole concept of the XTi series is that it's NOT a baby I-Tech.  Crown's take is that if you need remote, real time monitoring and control of networked amplifiers via TCP/IP connections, you should be buying I-Techs.

The reliable way to do this is get a cheap net top or laptop and park it at your amp racks.  Use USB hubs to connect the amps in each rack to a USB port on the host computer.  Use VNC to connect that computer to whatever remote client computer you want to use to monitor or control with.

You are correct, Band Manager is Windows-only.  Bite the bullet and take an old Windows machine you have laying around and use it.  You can still use your iFruit to VNC into it so you won't soil your hands by touching a Windoze box. /sarcasm, humor, other literary devices
New product in the Harman booth ought to be a cure for this situation, the USBX.  IIRC, connect up to six USB devices and has built in wifi for a couple hundred bucks.


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Re: Crown XTI USB directly to router
« Reply #14 on: January 26, 2013, 02:45:31 PM »

New product in the Harman booth ought to be a cure for this situation, the USBX.  IIRC, connect up to six USB devices and has built in wifi for a couple hundred bucks.

This is good news, Tom.  Thanks for the report from the floor...
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Re: Crown XTI USB directly to router
« Reply #15 on: January 26, 2013, 03:45:06 PM »

New product in the Harman booth ought to be a cure for this situation, the USBX.  IIRC, connect up to six USB devices and has built in wifi for a couple hundred bucks.

Good to know! Do they have a street date and price yet?
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Re: Crown XTI USB directly to router
« Reply #16 on: January 26, 2013, 04:54:39 PM »

Good to know! Do they have a street date and price yet?
Probably.  My brain's still a little mushy from 2 days of appointments but I'll check with my rep on Tuesday.   :o

Edit - I'm plane hopping today or I'd call him now.
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Re: Crown XTI USB directly to router
« Reply #17 on: January 28, 2013, 11:08:53 AM »

Have to go back to this installation, everything works, but it's really really slow.

 I'm thinking of installing one "Raspberry PI" per rack to share the USB's to the network

 Will the XTI be recognized in Linux?? Do I need drivers??

 Thank you.

http://www.raspberrypi.org/faqs
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Re: Crown XTI USB directly to router
« Reply #18 on: January 28, 2013, 01:38:03 PM »

Will the XTI be recognized in Linux?? Do I need drivers??


I'm pretty sure that the Harmon apps for setting the DSPs on the XTi's only work on Windows based systems. I decided to take Tim's advice and I use VNC to remote into my windows laptop next to the amps from my mac at FOH.
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Re: Crown XTI USB directly to router
« Reply #19 on: January 28, 2013, 01:43:14 PM »

....the 4 XTI (through a USB Hub) - was the USB Hub powered externally or passive from device?

I have seen the amp meters bog down (and other problems) when trying to use a passive hub, and that was direct from 3 XTI into computer/System Architect.

The meters seem awfully bogged down even directly plugged into my laptop.  Not sure if it is my laptop or just how slow the meters are normally.  Been meaning to plug the amp into my desktop to compare but I haven't had a chance.

The following article (first one that came up on google) indicates that it is likely going to retail about $250.  Now all the amps need is some visible indication of hitting the limiters.  Thinking about getting a dc-one to solve that problem but I doubt it will be compatible with the USBX

http://www.harmonycentral.com/t5/The-Music-Business/HARMAN-s-CrownAudio-Introduces-USBX-at-NAMM-2013-Enhancing/ba-p/34685179
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